Who on earth votes for this lot???

[life on mars]

Yes you're right, it is a lot easier to spend a nominal amount on a style guide than it is to solve the chronic issues facing our health service

F*ck me....

Read paragraph 2 and 3 .

[Maurice Swan]

Words to avoid

We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words: etc

Like it...and of course...It is H.M Government as a newly elected P.M. must seek and gain permission from her to form a government.
This is actually getting like George Orwell's 1984 and news speak....

[Doucas]

Words to avoid

We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:

agenda (unless it’s for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - we’re either doing something or we’re not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless it’s military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how you’re helping)focusingfoster (unless it’s children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - it’s probably important)land (as a verb only use if you’re talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless you’re talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless it’s strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless it’s rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise

Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:

drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless it’s cattle)going forward (it’s unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing

This is standard across most organisations including tories. It makes communication more effective as all staff follow the guide and do it in the same way. Honestly a couple of words seem more important to right wingers than child poverty and corruption.

[JamesWales]

Come on.....that is just a silly comment. whether it is the Daiy Mail or other publications, the ridiculousness of the edict is laughable.

You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.

[JamesWales]

Yeah right. "A worker" provided all the details for the 'article' for the 'newspaper'.

Personally, I think the Welsh Parliament is doing a great job defending Wales from Tory royalist clown serfs.

Meanwhile Patel starts a review of crossbow law. A mentally ill man gets within 500 yards of Elizabeth Windsor and Priti springs into action. What about the guy from North Wales murdered using a crossbow? No review there??

Maybe things look different from Arizona? Here it just seems ridiculous.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ee-50-22583757

[Citizen's Nephew]

For anyone playing right-wing poker I call. Four of a kind.

[jon1959]

Words to avoid

We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:

agenda (unless it’s for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - we’re either doing something or we’re not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless it’s military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how you’re helping)focusingfoster (unless it’s children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - it’s probably important)land (as a verb only use if you’re talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless you’re talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless it’s strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless it’s rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise

Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:

drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless it’s cattle)going forward (it’s unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing

What don't you like about plain English?

Er......

Forget it!

[cyril evans awaydays]

You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.

The story so far:

Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;

Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;

Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.

Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.

A couple of usual suspects pile in.

What a hill to make a stand on though??

[jon1959]

The story so far:

Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;

Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;

Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.

Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.

A couple of usual suspects pile in.

What a hill to make a stand on though??

That just about covers it.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Just to explain the concept of right-wing poker. Four wokes would beat a pair of loony-lefts. You have to call when the thread has reached the required amount. Other examples of combinations could be, say, four George Orwells would beat any other four of a kind. The rules need refining but with a bit of effort, it could be the CCMB equivalent to Mornington Crescent (as played on 'I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue').

[Citizen's Nephew]

The story so far:

Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;

Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;

Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.

Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.

A couple of usual suspects pile in.

What a hill to make a stand on though??

[Maurice Swan]

H M Government is just as bad as the Welsh Assembly sheep followers......wake up and stop accepting this desecration of the language. You are sleepwalking into Winston Smith's world....next you will be accepting the necessity to have TV surveillance inside your houses to make sure you don't break any rules. Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.

[delmbox]

H M Government is just as bad as the Welsh Assembly sheep followers......wake up and stop accepting this desecration of the language. You are sleepwalking into Winston Smith's world....next you will be accepting the necessity to have TV surveillance inside your houses to make sure you don't break any rules. Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.

Yeah everybody stand up and fight like Maurice Swan who bravely started a thread on a messageboard about it

[superflyblues]

I would like to see a UNITED Kingdom government and not the various parts ....The USA has similar even though they have state elections...

You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.

'Anything from the Senedd good' - you're suggesting some people support anything put forward by any of the parties in the Senedd? From Labour to Tories? What?

[Maurice Swan]

Yeah everybody stand up and fight like Maurice Swan who bravely started a thread on a messageboard about it

You know what they say about sarcasm......you think that is the only thing I do?

[superflyblues]

H M Government is just as bad as the Welsh Assembly sheep followers......wake up and stop accepting this desecration of the language. You are sleepwalking into Winston Smith's world....next you will be accepting the necessity to have TV surveillance inside your houses to make sure you don't break any rules. Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.

The problem here is that what seems like common sense to you may seem like ill-thought-out, shallow, tabloid induced, reactionary bollocks to some.

I think common sense is a country having its own democratically elected parliament and government, you seems to think that's objectionable.

Tricky, eh?

[delmbox]

You know what they say about sarcasm......you think that is the only thing I do?

No I think you probably also shout at teenagers for skateboarding

[City123]

Read paragraph 2 and 3 .

Of your post? Ok, the Senedd is too small, its responsibilities have expanded since it was established and they need more members as a result

[Dave Blue]

Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru are the "loony left"?

What would he call the Northern Irish? They seem to agree with the loony Welsh left and the loony Scots. Who are doing naff all against record breaking cases? The loony right in London.

[Jordi Culé]

It's not April 1st yet is it?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...yle-guide.html

It is about time this talking shop was closed down. What an embarrassment to Wales.

You still in France?

[The Lone Gunman]

Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.

Or better still, move to France.

[Dorcus]

Jeepers...can anyone really defend these linguistic dictats?

Maurice in a previous thread you seemed one brilliant guy with his head screwed on, Im utterly amazed, why do you now read shite like the Daily Mail? I know you're better than that.

[life on mars]

Of your post? Ok, the Senedd is too small, its responsibilities have expanded since it was established and they need more members as a result

Yes , keep avoiding the word cost .

If someone asked the the people of Wales what they wanted between 20 more AM 's plus support structure costs , or extra nurses, I think we all know the answer .

[lardy]

What don't you like about plain English?

Er......

Forget it!

[superflyblues]

Yes , keep avoiding the word cost .

If someone asked the the people of Wales what they wanted between 20 more AM 's plus support structure costs , or extra nurses, I think we all know the answer .

Can you offer many examples of countries with similar or bigger populations than Wales that have smaller legislatures than us?