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...in the interest of balance here's another, slightly more insightful, perspective
https://www.ft.com/content/f83ddf05-...d-e82a54c71afa
The City of London, like it or not, is hugely important to the UK economy. The impact of Brexit was a big worry. So far, it seems the City hasn't been hit as badly as some predicted - thankfully.
So far.
I guess the question is whether you can extrapolate what has happened in one port out to the rest of the UK fishing industry. For balance here are articles giving perspective from Cornwall, the East Coast of England (apologies for the headline)and Scotland. What do you think of the detail within it?
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/fish/how...663179.article
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-market-update
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/...-dream-1391517
To be fair all this ping pong is over an extremely emotional and locally important sector but one that is relatively unimportant to the UK's GDP. The Office of Budgetary Responsibilities forecast (dirty word I know) of a 4% hit to GDP as a consequence of the friction in the great UK/EU "free trade" deal and the absence of the services sector from it still holds true for them after their analysis of the first year of "freedom". If it's not fishing then the pain is going to be felt somewhere else based on the Government's own body.
I think there's good and bad news and the reality will be neither sunlit uplands nor a 'catastrophe' or 'collapse'. And I'm fine with that. Let's wait and see.
It wasn't me that posted the collage of headlines claiming farming and fishing were collapsing. That clearly isn't happening, and my intention was to demonstrate that.
What did I think of the figures? I've read a number of articles relating to fisheries. Some suggest Brexit has had a negative impact - others are more positive. I don't knows what the real picture is. I'm not convinced anyone does yet. My view (fwiw) is still that damage to the economy may be mixed across sectors, but that Brexit will end up having a very large negative economic impact overall. To think otherwise (in my mind) defies logic. Maybe markets will adjust and I'll be proved wrong though.
I think though that if I was billing myself on here as someone who is highly evidence-led and balanced in my approach I would avoid posting articles with absurd headlines which I immediately have to apologise for. I would worry that doing so would damage my credibility.
Post Brexit salaries have increased by 1.8%.
These are all positive indicators that growth and opportunities remain strong and are cause for optimism.
Come on man, be like Brucie
( yes its a ........Brucie Bonus!!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT8LsRVN7C4
UK economy above pre-covid levels in November
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59991870
surely good news lets hope we can keep omicron at bay and whatever else comes our way in the coming months
well i thought it was welcome news as I read through this thread seems to be all doom and gloom apart from me and LOM of course !
as for Brexit no one will ever know whether it was the right or wrong direction for the UK in the long run .Time will tell
someone I know who is very perceptive about these things said at the time of the referendum that there would be no huge positive or negative effects initially, but that the UK would grow its economy a bit slower than the EU, a couple of percent less per year, but that would continue forever. so initially there wouldn't be any noticeable difference, but after 20 years had passed there would be a chasm.
• The UK economy grew by more than expected in November, surpassing pre-Covid levels. The Office for National Statistics revealed GDP was 0.7% larger than in February 2020.
another bit of great news for the manufacturing sector especially for the automotive industry
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60066432
this will cement the automotive industry for many years in the UK . see analysis too in the report regarding Brexit
These giga factories will be spread around the UK in the future years too
Also Coventry gets the backing too for a giga factory to create 6,000 jobs which is to be expected really if gets the final nod from the government with JLR in the region which employs close on 35,000 people already which supports 100,000 supply chain jobs in the UK .boom time for the automotive industry for the next 10 years at least
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-59964429
@ swiss pete And under the Brexit deal, cars made in the UK and sold in Europe will soon have to contain a significant amount of UK or European parts
Seriously, can you start willing Cardiff City to get relegated because the truth is frequently the exact opposite of what you say. Correlation and causation blah blah blah, but still. Facts matter.
Current Unemployment Rates in western European countries.
https://tradingeconomics.com/country...ntinent=europe
Spain 14.57%
Greece 13.3%
Italy 9.2%
Austria 8.1%
France 8.1%
Sweden 7.5%
Euro Area 7.2%
EU Average 6.5%
Portugal 6.1%
Finland 6%
Belgium 5.9%
Germany 5.2%
Ireland 5.1%
Iceland 4.2%
Norway 4.2%
UK 4.1%
Netherlands 3.8%
Non-EU western European average 3.7%
Denmark 2.8%
Switzerland 2.6%
I'm not necessarily saying it is. Although I do think it will create a more dynamic economy and some restrictions on labour may raise wages in some sectors.
However, you are the one making conclusions. I quote: "to say brexit is good for jobs is beyond laughable."
I'm just saying you are wrong, and to be fair, the evidence suggests you are.