Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

[MOZZER2]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60015294?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

wealth of this lot has doubled during pandemic

Elon Musk
Jeff Bezos
Bernard Arnault and family
Bill Gates
Larry Ellison
Larry Page
Sergey Brin
Mark Zuckerberg
Steve Ballmer and Warren Buffet.

whilst covid induced poverty has pushed close on 100 million people into poverty in the world according to this report

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/26/business/global-poverty-covid-pandemic-intl-hnk/index.html

talk about inequality makes my blood boil ...............

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

Was it ever thus. People and companies have made huge financial gains in wartime.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

A company Rees Mogg is involved with was talking about the pandemic being a great money making opportunity all the way back in March 2020.

[Doucas]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

The average tory will see this as a good thing. This planet is ****ed and my parents wonder why I don't want kids.

[JamesWales]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

The average tory will see this as a good thing. This planet is ****ed and my parents wonder why I don't want kids.

Here we go...zzzzzzzzz

[JamesWales]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...mpaign=KARANGA

wealth of this lot has doubled during pandemic

Elon Musk
Jeff Bezos
Bernard Arnault and family
Bill Gates
Larry Ellison
Larry Page
Sergey Brin
Mark Zuckerberg
Steve Ballmer and Warren Buffet.

whilst covid induced poverty has pushed close on 100 million people into poverty in the world according to this report

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/26/business/global-poverty-covid-pandemic-intl-hnk/index.html

talk about inequality makes my blood boil ...............

Covid in the short term and particularly WFH in the long term will be a massive shift in increasing inequalities.

Covid because it skewed markets and made some things massively in demand - video technology, drugs, new IT, home deliveries. The average person can't deliver these products, unlike say a coffee shop or clothes shop.

Long term WFH will benefit those with houses big enough to make it tolerable, leaving those in shared housing or living alone or in crowded houses facing real difficulties. The subsequent reductions in public transport will hit those who need it most.

Offices, public transport for commuting and city centres are rare places wherre all social classes mix and all are equal. You remove that and people will 'stay local' and wealthier areas will advance whilst poorer fall behind.

If that's not the world you want, do something to change it. I go into the office, I use public transport, I try to buy independently where I can, I use cash for a good chunk of what I buy, I use Amazon as a last resort.

[ninian opinian]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

Covid in the short term and particularly WFH in the long term will be a massive shift in increasing inequalities.

Covid because it skewed markets and made some things massively in demand - video technology, drugs, new IT, home deliveries. The average person can't deliver these products, unlike say a coffee shop or clothes shop.

Long term WFH will benefit those with houses big enough to make it tolerable, leaving those in shared housing or living alone or in crowded houses facing real difficulties. The subsequent reductions in public transport will hit those who need it most.

Offices, public transport for commuting and city centres are rare places wherre all social classes mix and all are equal. You remove that and people will 'stay local' and wealthier areas will advance whilst poorer fall behind.

If that's not the world you want, do something to change it. I go into the office, I use public transport, I try to buy independently where I can, I use cash for a good chunk of what I buy, I use Amazon as a last resort.

Well tax the feckers who made the billions not those who have to chose between heating and eating.

[JamesWales]

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Well tax the feckers who made the billions not those who have to chose between heating and eating.

Well yeah, of course. But just like we can all do our bit on the environment, we can all do our bit on the kind of economy we want too.

Concerned about housing? Don't use Air BnB.
Concerned about huge multinationals? Don't use amazon
Concerned about global finance and banks. Use cash sometimes.
Concerned about inequality? Don't encourage WFH.

There's hundreds of practical little things that can and should be done to prevent a transfer of economic and social power from the have nots to the haves.

[Doucas]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

Here we go...zzzzzzzzz

You don't have an argument do you?

Tory faced with stone cold facts, ignore and deflect. Classic.

[JamesWales]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

You don't have an argument do you?

Tory faced with stone cold facts, ignore and deflect. Classic.

I don't think it's a stone cold fact that the average Tory will view the super rich (none of whom are Tories) getting richer as a good thing.

In reality, I think you making that up is rather indicative of the lack of facts on the matter on your behalf.

I've also made some points. You've just whinged about Tories as usual.

[Swiss Peter]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

I don't think it's a stone cold fact that the average Tory will view the super rich (none of whom are Tories) getting richer as a good thing.

In reality, I think you making that up is rather indicative of the lack of facts on the matter on your behalf.

I've also made some points. You've just whinged about Tories as usual.

Find myself agreeing with James on this one - especially the Amazon thing

[Doucas]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

I don't think it's a stone cold fact that the average Tory will view the super rich (none of whom are Tories) getting richer as a good thing.

In reality, I think you making that up is rather indicative of the lack of facts on the matter on your behalf.

I've also made some points. You've just whinged about Tories as usual.

Then why the hell do you repeatedly vote tories who seem to do nothing but make the super rich richer? Yeah I'm whinging about child poverty, I'm whinging about extreme wealth inequality, I'm whinging about the complete lack of care or action on climate change, I'm whinging about how wages are stagnating but costs go up and up and up. But go ahead and pass it off as nothing just brush it off because you're alright Jack.

You're beyond deluded if you think the vast majority of the super rich aren't tories/conservatives. You're incredible.

[JamesWales]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

Then why the hell do you repeatedly vote tories who seem to do nothing but make the super rich richer? Yeah I'm whinging about child poverty, I'm whinging about extreme wealth inequality, I'm whinging about the complete lack of care or action on climate change, I'm whinging about how wages are stagnating but costs go up and up and up. But go ahead and pass it off as nothing just brush it off because you're alright Jack.

You're beyond deluded if you think the vast majority of the super rich aren't tories/conservatives. You're incredible.

Because Doucus, none of what you write is true. Stop being so sectarian. People across the spectrum care about these things. They may disagree about how to best deal with them, but they care about them.

Saying one group of people dont care about these things because of how they vote is just bigoted nonsense.

And to say the UK does nothing about extreme wealth inequality or climate change or stagnant wages is just not remotely borne out by facts. The Tories top rate of tax is higher than it was under the last Labour govt, the UK leads on offshore wind and has debcarbonised more than nearly all other western nations. The current govt have raised the minimum wage far more than Labour ever did.

And stop assuming I'm alright jack too. I spent most of lockdown stuck in a cold, tiny, one bed flat with drafty windows. You have no idea.

So just stick to facts, and you'll see that your presumptions are not only pretty bigoted but also pretty false.

The world is far more complex than you seem to think, and the response earlier that all Tories will welcome a load of random, non British super-rich people (who if they hold any political views they will be in favour of the US centre-left party) getting richer is just daft.

[Doucas]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

Because Doucus, none of what you write is true. Stop being so sectarian. People across the spectrum care about these things. They may disagree about how to best deal with them, but they care about them.

Saying one group of people dont care about these things because of how they vote is just bigoted nonsense.

And to say the UK does nothing about extreme wealth inequality or climate change or stagnant wages is just not remotely borne out by facts. The Tories top rate of tax is higher than it was under the last Labour govt, the UK leads on offshore wind and has debcarbonised more than nearly all other western nations. The current govt have raised the minimum wage far more than Labour ever did.

And stop assuming I'm alright jack too. I spent most of lockdown stuck in a cold, tiny, one bed flat with drafty windows. You have no idea.

So just stick to facts, and you'll see that your presumptions are not only pretty bigoted but also pretty false.

The world is far more complex than you seem to think, and the response earlier that all Tories will welcome a load of random, non British super-rich people (who if they hold any political views they will be in favour of the US centre-left party) getting richer is just daft.

You're talking rubbish as usual. You've completely ignored that most wealth is acquired through capital e.g. housing or shares. You've ignored corporation tax is at its lowest in ages, you've ignored tax avoidance, You've ignored stagnating wages and hugely increasing costs, You've ignored sky rocketing house prices. You've ignored it doesn't matter if minimum wage has increased if inflation and costs have grown far higher. It'd be hilarious to laugh at how you've ignored basically everything to justify your opinion if it hadn't been people thinking like you being so damaging to the UK over the past 40 years.

Tell me why you think this is ok - https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-average-wages

Token efforts to decarbonise mean **** all, do you really think we are doing out best to do that after our current government met with Rupert murdochs team about 40 times in the first 6 months of being in power?

What centre left party exists in the US? The republicans are extreme right like our current government and the Democrats are centre right much like Labour under Starmer.

150,000 dead from austerity, 160,000 dead from covid but boo hoo the forum tory is upset that I call him and his party out as the scum that they are.

[Doucas]

Re: Seems like some people done well out of Pandemic

You're talking rubbish as usual. You've completely ignored that most wealth is acquired through capital e.g. housing or shares. You've ignored corporation tax is at its lowest in ages, you've ignored tax avoidance, You've ignored stagnating wages and hugely increasing costs, You've ignored sky rocketing house prices. You've ignored it doesn't matter if minimum wage has increased if inflation and costs have grown far higher. It'd be hilarious to laugh at how you've ignored basically everything to justify your opinion if it hadn't been people thinking like you being so damaging to the UK over the past 40 years.

Tell me why you think this is ok - https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-average-wages

Token efforts to decarbonise mean **** all, do you really think we are doing out best to do that after our current government met with Rupert murdochs team about 40 times in the first 6 months of being in power?

What centre left party exists in the US? The republicans are extreme right like our current government and the Democrats are centre right much like Labour under Starmer.

150,000 dead from austerity, 160,000 dead from covid but boo hoo the forum tory is upset that I call him and his party out as the scum that they are.

Forgot to say council tax increasing by 5% every year due to budget cuts putting the burden on the poor and middle classes.