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  • #16
    Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

    For us? VERY.

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    • #17
      Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

      With the levels of debt we are carrying I think relegation would be a disaster, perhaps leading to administration. In terms of football.. I think there are teams in league 1 who play much better than us and I wouldn't be concerned about the actual football.

      "Resetting the finances".. We should be doing that anyway and think we are.

      We are a club without a vision and have spaffed millions and millions on annual gambles. They didn't work out, only provided us with a few days in the sun, nothing long term or sustainable.

      I don't see that relegation would help fix that.

      Ideally we avoid relegation and allow our young management team to get on with more sensible squad rebuilding.. using a mix of academy players and sensible free or low cost signings.

      I would say everything hinges on the pending court cases too.

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      • #18
        Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

        Yes, we spent two decades in the lower divisions after our last relegation from the second tier, but we went straight back up on the two previous occasions and neither time did we have a big budget to spend. A side with a nucleus of local, home grown Academy products going well in the third tier would soon lead to a much better atmosphere and I would guess better crowds at Cardiff City Stadium, but I find it impossible to judge what is most likely to happen until we get a better idea of what sort of backing Vincent Tan would be prepared to give the manager in the event of us being relegated.

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        • #19
          Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

          Rotherham, Millwall, Peterborough, Barnsley, Blackpool, Hull, Wigan all clubs that have bounced back recently. Some have gone back down but looking good to bounce back.
          Wycombe top of the league after going down last season. Rotherham will go top if win games in hand. Wigan also up there again this season.

          I don’t think it’s the disaster some think it will be and long term it may actually benefit the development of this generation of academy lads now breaking into the first team.

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          • #20
            Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

            Originally posted by AfricanBluebird View Post
            With the levels of debt we are carrying I think relegation would be a disaster, perhaps leading to administration. In terms of football.. I think there are teams in league 1 who play much better than us and I wouldn't be concerned about the actual football.

            "Resetting the finances".. We should be doing that anyway and think we are.

            We are a club without a vision and have spaffed millions and millions on annual gambles. They didn't work out, only provided us with a few days in the sun, nothing long term or sustainable.

            I don't see that relegation would help fix that.

            Ideally we avoid relegation and allow our young management team to get on with more sensible squad rebuilding.. using a mix of academy players and sensible free or low cost signings.

            I would say everything hinges on the pending court cases too.
            Hopefully we can say we were a club without a vision and have spaffed millions and millions on annual gambles.
            But no more

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            • #21
              Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

              Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
              Rotherham, Millwall, Peterborough, Barnsley, Blackpool, Hull, Wigan all clubs that have bounced back recently. Some have gone back down but looking good to bounce back.
              Wycombe top of the league after going down last season. Rotherham will go top if win games in hand. Wigan also up there again this season.

              I don’t think it’s the disaster some think it will be and long term it may actually benefit the development of this generation of academy lads now breaking into the first team.
              I don't want relegation but if it means we can regroup and come back better and stronger then so be it.
              The youngsters we have in the squad will thrive in league one so hopefully will have more games , experience and be ready for the championship if promoted.

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              • #22
                Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                anyone who thinks it would be we easier to rebuild in league one is very misguided.

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                • #23
                  Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                  Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                  anyone who thinks it would be we easier to rebuild in league one is very misguided.
                  In your opinion

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                  • #24
                    Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                    Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                    anyone who thinks it would be we easier to rebuild in league one is very misguided.
                    There were similar posts about the championship when we were struggling in the prem.

                    I think at best it's people taking a gloomy situation and trying be positive

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                    • #25
                      Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                      So we go down to League One and assuming we come back up within two seasons (assuming we’ve avoided Administration), then assume that we’ll maintain decent crowds…
                      Are we then to assume that we’ll be able to avoid relegation back to League One?

                      The world will have moved on again. Cardiff City is already playing catch up and like I’ve previously said, does anyone expect the academy to continue with the same level of investment if we’re in League One?

                      It sounds like a lot of assuming to me.

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                      • #26
                        Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                        Relegation to League One would be an absolute disaster. Yes, clubs do go down, get their act together, and come back up, but not many. If we went down, our income would plummet, along with our attendances. Players would leave, and we'd have a hard job finding quality replacements. And worst of all, we could be down there for years...

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                        • #27
                          Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                          I wouldn't be bothered if we were relegated, it'd give us a chance to have a good reset, give our younger players a chance to bloom and hopefully get rid of all our deadwood and rebuild.

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                          • #28
                            Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                            Originally posted by Trigger View Post
                            There were similar posts about the championship when we were struggling in the prem.

                            I think at best it's people taking a gloomy situation and trying be positive
                            To be fair the season after we got relegated was a great opportunity to rebuild, but warnock as much as I like him did a horrible job with recruitment that transfer window.

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                            • #29
                              Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                              Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                              To be fair the season after we got relegated was a great opportunity to rebuild, but warnock as much as I like him did a horrible job with recruitment that transfer window.
                              Yea but you can rebuild where you are at. If we had stopped up we would have had a bigger budget and been able to attract better players, whoever was our manager.

                              As we saw if you go down mistakes still happen, luck goes against you etc etc. The reduction in income alone surely can't make any rebuilding easier at a level below. Not to say its impossible I've just never understood the thinking.

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                              • #30
                                Re: How damaging is relegation to the third tier?

                                Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                                I wouldn't be bothered if we were relegated, it'd give us a chance to have a good reset, give our younger players a chance to bloom and hopefully get rid of all our deadwood and rebuild.
                                While I'm not bothered particularly about playing in a lower division (city have been there most of my life), however, I am not sure we need to get relegated to have a good reset, give youngsters a chance and get rid of the deadwood... surely they are all things we can do whatever division we are in.

                                In fact you may find that we may NOT do any of that if we get relegated as the chairman will be demanding an instant return to the championship and our youngsters maybe sacrificed for that.

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