Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

[jon1959]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

Boris Johnson really is a role model!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/07/french-far-right-presidential-hopeful-eric-zemmour-likens-himself-to-boris-johnson

An inspiration!

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/07/police-rescue-keir-starmer-after-protesters-surround-him-near-parliament

[Dorcus]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ear-parliament

That unsavoury little spectacle will generate a few more letters to Graham Brady one would think. He might be channeling his Gloria Gaynor but a few more Tories will be singing "The Party's Over".

[JamesWales]

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It's disgusting how many MP's are treated now. But it is no use only being upset when it happens to your side. This has been going on for several years and to all MPs.

This same lot (Piers Corbyns crowd) are the ones who targeted Michael Gove last year.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

Rees-Mogg becomes Minister for Brexit Opportunities - he’ll get plenty of chances for another kip on the Government benches with that job.

[Jordi Culé]

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It's disgusting how many MP's are treated now. But it is no use only being upset when it happens to your side. This has been going on for several years and to all MPs.

This same lot (Piers Corbyns crowd) are the ones who targeted Michael Gove last year.

Quite right, although it's fair to say in the case of Keir Starmer being harrassed/attacked, the loopers carrying out the harrassment/attack were stoked up with lies that were stated by the country's PM only days before.

Unless of course, I've missed Starmer, Raynor or anyone else suggesting Gove covered for paedophiles in a previous parliamentary questions session and that was the reason he was attacked? If so, I'll stand corrected.

[jon1959]

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Rees-Mogg becomes Minister for Brexit Opportunities - he’ll get plenty of chances for another kip on the Government benches with that job.

That's one job created by Brexit.

Got to start somewhere.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Rees-Mogg becomes Minister for Brexit Opportunities - he’ll get plenty of chances for another kip on the Government benches with that job.

An oxymoron led by a proper moron!

[JamesWales]

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Quite right, although it's fair to say in the case of Keir Starmer being harrassed/attacked, the loopers carrying out the harrassment/attack were stoked up with lies that were stated by the country's PM only days before.

Unless of course, I've missed Starmer, Raynor or anyone else suggesting Gove covered for paedophiles in a previous parliamentary questions session and that was the reason he was attacked? If so, I'll stand corrected.

I think that's the point though; they weren't. If you listen to the video, they are shouting abuse at him for a variety of things; not challenging the government, supporting masks etc. It's a real political stew of consipiracy theorists and the far left and far right. The 'Jimmy Savile' thing has been thrown at Starmer for many years. I agree, the PM shouldn't have gone there, but that's where politics is at the moment, unfortunately, and whilst he may add to it and should know better, he didn't create this culture.

I genuinely find it repulsive how people talk about politicians. I find some of the comments on here repulsive, I find many of them on twitter repulsive, and I find a lot of them in parliament itself repulsive. Politicians are getting targeted all the time, and one was stabbed to death a few months ago.

But claiming that the group that verbally abused Starmer were only there cos of what Johnson said was borderline Orwellian and some seriously bad reporting from the BBC. It just wasn't true. This was an established group saying the same nasty shit they have to many politicians for many months.

I think Johnson should resign, but twisting the truth on what happened isn't the way to get it to happen.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I think that's the point though; they weren't. If you listen to the video, they are shouting abuse at him for a variety of things; not challenging the government, supporting masks etc. It's a real political stew of consipiracy theorists and the far left and far right. The 'Jimmy Savile' thing has been thrown at Starmer for many years. I agree, the PM shouldn't have gone there, but that's where politics is at the moment, unfortunately, and whilst he may add to it and should know better, he didn't create this culture.

I genuinely find it repulsive how people talk about politicians. I find some of the comments on here repulsive, I find many of them on twitter repulsive, and I find a lot of them in parliament itself repulsive. Politicians are getting targeted all the time, and one was stabbed to death a few months ago.

But claiming that the group that verbally abused Starmer were only there cos of what Johnson said was borderline Orwellian and some seriously bad reporting from the BBC. It just wasn't true. This was an established group saying the same nasty shit they have to many politicians for many months.

I think Johnson should resign, but twisting the truth on what happened isn't the way to get it to happen.

You make it sound like politics being where we are today came out of the ether. For all their frailties I cannot recall Cameron or May creating a culture of overt populism and cultural confrontation.

Boris Johnson may not be single-handedly responsible for things. He is responsible for setting the tone and structure of government that unashamedly lies, protects people who have gone way beyond resignation norms and elevates third raters and sycophants for their loyalty to the cult. Leaders can take steps to address the poison in society rather than ride its wave.

As Lord Heseltine said of him:

"A man who waits to see which way the crowd is running and then dashes in front and says ‘follow me’"

[Jordi Culé]

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I think that's the point though; they weren't. If you listen to the video, they are shouting abuse at him for a variety of things; not challenging the government, supporting masks etc. It's a real political stew of consipiracy theorists and the far left and far right. The 'Jimmy Savile' thing has been thrown at Starmer for many years. I agree, the PM shouldn't have gone there, but that's where politics is at the moment, unfortunately, and whilst he may add to it and should know better, he didn't create this culture.

I genuinely find it repulsive how people talk about politicians. I find some of the comments on here repulsive, I find many of them on twitter repulsive, and I find a lot of them in parliament itself repulsive. Politicians are getting targeted all the time, and one was stabbed to death a few months ago.

But claiming that the group that verbally abused Starmer were only there cos of what Johnson said was borderline Orwellian and some seriously bad reporting from the BBC. It just wasn't true. This was an established group saying the same nasty shit they have to many politicians for many months.

I think Johnson should resign, but twisting the truth on what happened isn't the way to get it to happen.

"I agree, the PM shouldn't have gone there, but that's where politics is at the moment, unfortunately, and whilst he may add to it and should know better, he didn't create this culture."

Jesus fuuck buddy... Are you being nuanced or trying to polish a turd?

So fuelling the fire for complete loopers to act impulsively and harass opposition is now seen as a legitimate strategy?

I know you're not personally endorsing thus behaviour but you don't seem to be condemning it either, more like a half soaked admission that perhaps it shouldn't have happened?

You are right in saying, the group who had a pop at Starmer are made up of a myriad of groups but they feel empowered to act as they do when a PM willingly repeats lies which they feel supports their cause and justifies their actions.

[life on mars]

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"I agree, the PM shouldn't have gone there, but that's where politics is at the moment, unfortunately, and whilst he may add to it and should know better, he didn't create this culture."

Jesus fuuck buddy... Are you being nuanced or trying to polish a turd?

So fuelling the fire for complete loopers to act impulsively and harass opposition is now seen as a legitimate strategy?

I know you're not personally endorsing thus behaviour but you don't seem to be condemning it either, more like a half soaked admission that perhaps it shouldn't have happened?

You are right in saying, the group who had a pop at Starmer are made up of a myriad of groups but they feel empowered to act as they do when a PM willingly repeats lies which they feel supports their cause and justifies their actions.

Think the vileness was out there already ,even Whitty was attacked


Gove was targeted by anti-lockdown protesters

And the journalists Nick Watt and Jeremy Vine been targeted.

[JamesWales]

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"I agree, the PM shouldn't have gone there, but that's where politics is at the moment, unfortunately, and whilst he may add to it and should know better, he didn't create this culture."

Jesus fuuck buddy... Are you being nuanced or trying to polish a turd?

So fuelling the fire for complete loopers to act impulsively and harass opposition is now seen as a legitimate strategy?

I know you're not personally endorsing thus behaviour but you don't seem to be condemning it either, more like a half soaked admission that perhaps it shouldn't have happened?

You are right in saying, the group who had a pop at Starmer are made up of a myriad of groups but they feel empowered to act as they do when a PM willingly repeats lies which they feel supports their cause and justifies their actions.

1 / No, he shouldnt have said it.
2/ I don't think the protestors abusing Starmer were motivated by what he said at all - they have form.
3 / He receives constant personal abuse. Many politicians are endlessly on the receipt of it. He didnt start that, and unless people condemn it all then they are tolerating it.

We need to remember that even someone like David Lammy doubled down on calling some Tory MPs 'Nazis'. It may not be nice for Starmer to be linked to a paedophile, but it's worse to be linked to a death cult from 70 years ago who threw children in gas chambers.

Thats my point, this stuff has been put out into the political discourse for several years now and I have to say the silence when it happens to one side is pretty notable.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/14/comparing-erg-to-nazis-not-strong-enough-says-david-lammy

[life on mars]

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1 / No, he shouldnt have said it.
2/ I don't think the protestors abusing Starmer were motivated by what he said at all - they have form.
3 / He receives constant personal abuse. Many politicians are endlessly on the receipt of it. He didnt start that, and unless people condemn it all then they are tolerating it.

We need to remember that even someone like David Lammy doubled down on calling some Tory MPs 'Nazis'. It may not be nice for Starmer to be linked to a paedophile, but it's worse to be linked to a death cult from 70 years ago who threw children in gas chambers.

Thats my point, this stuff has been put out into the political discourse for several years now and I have to say the silence when it happens to one side is pretty notable.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ys-david-lammy

David Lammy is just as bad as Boris with this dreadful comment sadly its part of the bigger problem of nasty politics.

You could argue Trump politics exists in both parties , if you point a finger at Boris and his language surely the same goes for this comment by Lammy comparing ERG Brexit group to Nazis and he backs it up with ‘not strong enough’ dear lord how does that sound to Jewish people whose relatives died at the hands of the Nazis in gas chambers and they get compared too Brexiteers , nasty ,nasty socialist comments up there with nasty Right wing politics .

What shocks me Lammy even after this comment Labour think fit to promote him , dear lord we say Tories are bankrupt .

Its sits with the fact anti-Semitism existed in the Labour Party equally a disgusting poor behaviour.

[Tito Fuente]

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dear lord we say Tories are bankrupt .

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Agreed.