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  1. #151

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    David Lammy is just as bad as Boris with this dreadful comment sadly its part of the bigger problem of nasty politics.

    You could argue Trump politics exists in both parties , if you point a finger at Boris and his language surely the same goes for this comment by Lammy comparing ERG Brexit group to Nazis and he backs it up with ‘not strong enough’ dear lord how does that sound to Jewish people whose relatives died at the hands of the Nazis in gas chambers and they get compared too Brexiteers , nasty ,nasty socialist comments up there with nasty Right wing politics .

    What shocks me Lammy even after this comment Labour think fit to promote him , dear lord we say Tories are bankrupt .

    Its sits with the fact anti-Semitism existed in the Labour Party equally a disgusting poor behaviour.
    I'm choughed you're mentioning this. There's plenty to crow about.

  2. #152

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Think the vileness was out there already ,even Whitty was attacked


    Gove was targeted by anti-lockdown protesters

    And the journalists Nick Watt and Jeremy Vine been targeted.
    Correct LoM the loopers are out there which is why they shouldn't be condoned, supported or given justification by anyone but especially by the bloke masquerading as the PM.

    Dan Hodges made a point mind that he thinks Johndon is repeating the conspiracy theorists rather than them being stoked by Johnson.

    If so, it's the first thing the bumbling cuuntwaffle has paid attention to apart from perhaps the Christmas quiz held at number 10?

  3. #153

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    I'm choughed you're mentioning this. There's plenty to crow about.
    I’d leave it there if I were you, we don’t want him to Carrion like he usually does.

  4. #154

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Correct LoM the loopers are out there which is why they shouldn't be condoned, supported or given justification by anyone but especially by the bloke masquerading as the PM.

    Dan Hodges made a point mind that he thinks Johndon is repeating the conspiracy theorists rather than them being stoked by Johnson.

    If so, it's the first thing the bumbling cuuntwaffle has paid attention to apart from perhaps the Christmas quiz held at number 10?
    You make a reasonable point. Starmer was head of the organisation that failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile, but he didn't personally have any involvement. I don't know how common it is for the head of the organisation to intervene, but I would suggest it's unreasonable to expect it.

    As such, do you think people who personally blame Johnson for things like '150,000' deaths, or Teresa May for Grenfell is equally inappropriate?

  5. #155

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    You make a reasonable point. Starmer was head of the organisation that failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile, but he didn't personally have any involvement. I don't know how common it is for the head of the organisation to intervene, but I would suggest it's unreasonable to expect it.

    As such, do you think people who personally blame Johnson for things like '150,000' deaths, or Teresa May for Grenfell is equally inappropriate?


    Are you honestly and really comparing Starmer apparent failure to prosecute Savile, May being PM whilst a tragedy took place on a single day to Johnson's numerous mistakes, absences of leadership leading up and alleged parties during the pandemic?

    Fair play to you but that's a bit of a reach

  6. #156

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post


    Are you honestly and really comparing Starmer apparent failure to prosecute Savile, May being PM whilst a tragedy took place on a single day to Johnson's numerous mistakes, absences of leadership leading up and alleged parties during the pandemic?

    Fair play to you but that's a bit of a reach
    Sorry, is it not the same principle? I've those at the head of an organisation not being personally responsible for it? That's your argument isn't it?

    Can you please clarify what the rules are here?!🤣

  7. #157

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Sorry, is it not the same principle? I've those at the head of an organisation not being personally responsible for it? That's your argument isn't it?

    Can you please clarify what the rules are here?!🤣
    Use that self proclaimed ability of yours by looking at the three situations in a nuanced manner.

    I’m sure you can spot subtle differences between them?

  8. #158

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Use that self proclaimed ability of yours by looking at the three situations in a nuanced manner.

    I’m sure you can spot subtle differences between them?
    Ha, thanks.

    Look, I get it. Johnson shouldn't have said it.

    My point is applying this consistently. It's a fact that Starmer was head of an organisation that (with hindsight) made a huge error.

    The same goes for a lot in government. Is it not common to us we phrases such as 'the fish rots from the head down' and 'the person at the top is ultimately responsible' etc?

    Will we not be doing that going forward then?

    I think a huge stupid fuss was made over it. He shouldn't have said it but then again the reaction was OTT.

  9. #159

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Ha, thanks.

    Look, I get it. Johnson shouldn't have said it.

    My point is applying this consistently. It's a fact that Starmer was head of an organisation that (with hindsight) made a huge error.

    The same goes for a lot in government. Is it not common to us we phrases such as 'the fish rots from the head down' and 'the person at the top is ultimately responsible' etc?

    Will we not be doing that going forward then?

    I think a huge stupid fuss was made over it. He shouldn't have said it but then again the reaction was OTT.
    Hmmm...

    I'm not sure you do get the point or you're deliberately obfuscating the point?

    You're comparing the CPS not prosecuting Savile whilst Starmer was top dawg and May being PM whilst the Grenfell tragedy occurred with Johnsons mistakes made during the Covid pandemic.

    Come on buddy, you can do it.

    We're in agreement that Johnson shouldn't have said it but let's be honest, he feels its a legitimate strategy for deflecting shiit away from him.

    You are right though, that's where politics is at the moment. Embarrassing and extremely worrying.

  10. #160

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Hmmm...

    I'm not sure you do get the point or you're deliberately obfuscating the point?

    You're comparing the CPS not prosecuting Savile whilst Starmer was top dawg and May being PM whilst the Grenfell tragedy occurred with Johnsons mistakes made during the Covid pandemic.

    Come on buddy, you can do it.

    We're in agreement that Johnson shouldn't have said it but let's be honest, he feels its a legitimate strategy for deflecting shiit away from him.

    You are right though, that's where politics is at the moment. Embarrassing and extremely worrying.
    It's all shit. Lets just have a beer yeah 😘

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    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    He's filling in his police questionnaire today.

    Multiple choice I assume.

    'Are you a lying, rule-breaking, narcissist?' - Yes/No

    'Are you telling the truth?' - Yes/No

  12. #162

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    He's filling in his police questionnaire today.

    Multiple choice I assume.

    'Are you a lying, rule-breaking, narcissist?' - Yes/No

    'Are you telling the truth?' - Yes/No
    Do you suffer from delusions of grandeur?
    Are your brains stored in your balls?

  13. #163

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Something else to be added to this Government’s Roll of Shame, they’ve lifted a ban on Rupert Murdoch interfering in the editorial independence of the Times and Sunday Times imposed by the Thatcher Government when he bought both papers in the eighties.

  14. #164

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    In the interests of balance here is a piece from the Independent (yes, the Independent) which is quite favourable to Johnson.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...l?fr=operanews

    I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon!

  15. #165

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiss Peter View Post
    In the interests of balance here is a piece from the Independent (yes, the Independent) which is quite favourable to Johnson.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...l?fr=operanews

    I'm sure normal service will be resumed soon!
    John Rentoul is of a right wing bent so it's no surprise he finds some credit in Johnson's war performance. Nevertheless he's a savvy journalist and his analysis should not be dismissed. It will be interesting to guage the mood of the Tories after May's local elections.

  16. #166

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    John Rentoul is of a right wing bent so it's no surprise he finds some credit in Johnson's war performance. Nevertheless he's a savvy journalist and his analysis should not be dismissed. It will be interesting to guage the mood of the Tories after May's local elections.
    All true. The outcome of May's elections will probably be quite different to what might have been expected a couple of weeks back.

  17. #167

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Johnson getting questioned by the Times about his relationship with Evgeny Lebedev, the latter being awarded a peerage for services to party hosting whilst his father was deemed a security risk.

    I see on Twatter that even that well known left wing sop Andrew Neil is commenting on it.

    Good old Boris, such a character.

  18. #168

    Re: Mike Bassett: England Prime Minister

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Johnson getting questioned by the Times about his relationship with Evgeny Lebedev, the latter being awarded a peerage for services to party hosting whilst his father was deemed a security risk.

    I see on Twatter that even that well known left wing sop Andrew Neil is commenting on it.

    Good old Boris, such a character.
    Another prominent left winger has his say;-

    https://www.itv.com/news/2022-03-06/...edev-a-peerage

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