Subs made a huge difference tonight

[stan butler]

Was Danny Hill a loan signing? I seem to remember him being quality but my mind isn't what it used to be

[xsnaggle]

I think there's a fair bit of recency bias in that, also they were often the only loan signings! Ramsey was brilliant when he came back, Koumas was an absolute joke and Bellamy was Bellamy. O'Neil and Inamoto were very good, shame Mandaric didn't let us buy O'Neil after Redknapp agreed. Koumas is the best loan signing though, that was the best single season from any City player in my lifetime.

Make your mind up?

[delmbox]

Make your mind up?

It's a colloquial way of saying he was amazing

[J R Hartley]

Was Danny Hill a loan signing? I seem to remember him being quality but my mind isn't what it used to be

Loan first time we had him. Then second time permanent. He move to Oxford for a short spell in between.

I liked him, decent footballer.

[J R Hartley]

Was Danny Hill a loan signing? I seem to remember him being quality but my mind isn't what it used to be

It's a colloquial way of saying he was amazing

Like that is bad, meaning it’s good

[stan butler]

Make your mind up?

I thought that to

[Citizen's Nephew]

Morison is ruthless. And outspoken. No doubt about that. But I think he's fair. If he sees a problem, he deals with it sooner rather than later. Why give a player 45 minutes if it's obviously not working? He seems very analytical and I get the feeling he takes time to explain to the players what he's thinking. He criticized Joel Bagen for not being bold enough going forward and got a MOM display from him. And gave him credit for it. I think Morison is the most exciting thing to happen to the City in some time. I also think that if he had a Welsh accent this forum's attitude toward him would be very different. He's saved our season. We're in playoff form. He's made the best loan signings I can remember. Let's give the guy some credit.

I had to look up the word hyperbole because I swear it's not enough to describe what I've just read.

He's had plenty of praise for the results but we've only played 25% of the matches left this season since the new signings. Look at the fixture list and measure us by the scalps we've taken from top teams at the end of the season before we start burning incense to the shrine of Morison.

Out of the 5 we've played, Forest is the biggest win for me. We still have to play Derby twice. I want to see what those two matches throw up because they're going to be juicy encounters against a side managed by Rooney, another Rookie. Please can we be careful about projecting form on the basis of so few matches? Plus, 4 out of 5 sounds great on paper but with 75% of matches yet to play it's way too early to be going this overboard.

Why not wait until the end of the season? Is that too much to ask?

I'll not beat this drum any longer because I'm starting to bore myself now but all this 'tough love, 'kick up the arse', 'tells it how it is, 'outspoken', 'ruthless' stuff is a smokescreen. I've been on the receiving end of all that sh*t at various times throughout my life and in every other working environment, it's called bullying. Always has been, always will be. But football seems to get a free pass. Morison gets a free pass. Well it'll never happen from me.

I'll measure Morison at the end of the season by both results and whether he learns to take ownership and acknowledge he's responsible. Right now, to me. he's a 38 hot-head in a top job he doesn't deserve. I want to see him earn it.

[Cyclops]

It's a colloquial way of saying he was amazing

Yeah - he was BAD

[Citizen's Nephew]

Obviously, that should have read 38-year old hot head in my last post.....

Edit: Please can we also not re-write the history books and scratch the performances before the signings too because they are still valid within context.

[dml1954]

I had to look up the word hyperbole because I swear it's not enough to describe what I've just read.

He's had plenty of praise for the results but we've only played 25% of the matches left this season since the new signings. Look at the fixture list and measure us by the scalps we've taken from top teams at the end of the season before we start burning incense to the shrine of Morison.

Out of the 5 we've played, Forest is the biggest win for me. We still have to play Derby twice. I want to see what those two matches throw up because they're going to be juicy encounters against a side managed by Rooney, another Rookie. Please can we be careful about projecting form on the basis of so few matches? Plus, 4 out of 5 sounds great on paper but with 75% of matches yet to play it's way too early to be going this overboard.

Why not wait until the end of the season? Is that too much to ask?

I'll not beat this drum any longer because I'm starting to bore myself now but all this 'tough love, 'kick up the arse', 'tells it how it is, 'outspoken', 'ruthless' stuff is a smokescreen. I've been on the receiving end of all that sh*t at various times throughout my life and in every other working environment, it's called bullying. Always has been, always will be. But football seems to get a free pass. Morison gets a free pass. Well it'll never happen from me.

I'll measure Morison at the end of the season by both results and whether he learns to take ownership and acknowledge he's responsible. Right now, to me. he's a 38 hot-head in a top job he doesn't deserve. I want to see him earn it.

You should practice what you preach. You wrote him off weeks ago as a manager and a person.

[stan butler]

I had to look up the word hyperbole because I swear it's not enough to describe what I've just read.

He's had plenty of praise for the results but we've only played 25% of the matches left this season since the new signings. Look at the fixture list and measure us by the scalps we've taken from top teams at the end of the season before we start burning incense to the shrine of Morison.

Out of the 5 we've played, Forest is the biggest win for me. We still have to play Derby twice. I want to see what those two matches throw up because they're going to be juicy encounters against a side managed by Rooney, another Rookie. Please can we be careful about projecting form on the basis of so few matches? Plus, 4 out of 5 sounds great on paper but with 75% of matches yet to play it's way too early to be going this overboard.

Why not wait until the end of the season? Is that too much to ask?

I'll not beat this drum any longer because I'm starting to bore myself now but all this 'tough love, 'kick up the arse', 'tells it how it is, 'outspoken', 'ruthless' stuff is a smokescreen. I've been on the receiving end of all that sh*t at various times throughout my life and in every other working environment, it's called bullying. Always has been, always will be. But football seems to get a free pass. Morison gets a free pass. Well it'll never happen from me.

I'll measure Morison at the end of the season by both results and whether he learns to take ownership and acknowledge he's responsible. Right now, to me. he's a 38 hot-head in a top job he doesn't deserve. I want to see him earn it.

Results against the top teams with millions of pounds worth of players is not really a fair way to judge us

[Citizen's Nephew]

Results against the top teams with millions of pounds worth of players is not really a fair way to judge us

OK. So, now I am really confused. How do we judge him then Stan? Against the sh*t teams? I'm not having a go mate I just think we're in danger of forever making excuses if we, literally, keep shifting the goalposts.

[Citizen's Nephew]

You should practice what you preach. You wrote him off weeks ago as a manager and a person.

....he pounced. Again. Take that CN. You unbeliever.

[splott parker]

....he pounced. Again. Take that CN. You unbeliever.

Don’t you fall into the acronym trap, who or what the f*ck is a CN?

[Citizen's Nephew]

Don’t you fall into the acronym trap, who or what the f*ck is a CN?

When you come to one of my roll-playing parties Mr P, you'll find out!

[Citizen's Nephew]

You should practice what you preach. You wrote him off weeks ago as a manager and a person.

Actually just thinking about this. I can't win can I? I don't know the rules of your game(s). If I write him off = bad. If he wins me over = bad. Having new information and forming an opinion = bad. Reasoning like an adult = bad. Hypocrisy = good. Blimey, I do know the rules after all!

[Armitage Shanks]

Don’t you fall into the acronym trap, who or what the f*ck is a CN?

There was a question on James OBrien show on LBC at lunch time, asking when does an acronym someone created become well used

[Citizen's Nephew]

There was a question on James OBrien show on LBC at lunch time, asking when does an acronym someone created become well used

If Mr P is fast enough he'll answer "you'd have to ask CN"

[splott parker]

When you come to one of my roll-playing parties Mr P, you'll find out!

Don’t worry about SP, I’ll just role with it

[The Lone Gunman]

I think Morison is the most exciting thing to happen to the City in some time. He's saved our season. He's made the best loan signings I can remember.

Man, you've got it bad...

[dembethewarrior]

I agree, why is there an anti morrison vibe on here.
It's not flower arranging it's professional football. The players have to harden up a bit .
Morrison got the sub spot on, we could have been 2 0 down at half time.
People should stop thinking players are precious souls

Took my time to open this thread, and it's no different to what I expected. I've read things such as
"So upset he stayed out all alone"- commentators even said it was probably a smart thing to do as not to distracted away form the Half time talk..
He was being "consoled by pack" ****ing hell is this a football player we're talking about or a divorced woman being fussed over by her girlies?

I am intrigued what else I will read, glad I saved it all up for 200 odd posts to have a good season long binge on it..

[dembethewarrior]

But, unless I’ve missed something, all of the evidence of the past four months or so says that Morison only has a go at a certain group of players in public - those qualified by age to play for our under 23 team. Yet, for me, it is an experienced group of players who have let us down more this season - presumably, the thinking at he start of the season was that we would be able to bed in the number of young players we’ve used this season because there was an experienced nucleus to the team capable of doing enough to prevent the very type of season we’ve had. Clearly, they haven’t been able to that, yet Morison stays silent about that week after week.

Perhaps he sees something worth fighting for in the ones he's having a pop at, and isn't bothered ti act the same way with the older more experienced lot .

Perhaps he isn't this nasty bully.

[NYCBlue]

I had to look up the word hyperbole because I swear it's not enough to describe what I've just read.

He's had plenty of praise for the results but we've only played 25% of the matches left this season since the new signings. Look at the fixture list and measure us by the scalps we've taken from top teams at the end of the season before we start burning incense to the shrine of Morison.

Out of the 5 we've played, Forest is the biggest win for me. We still have to play Derby twice. I want to see what those two matches throw up because they're going to be juicy encounters against a side managed by Rooney, another Rookie. Please can we be careful about projecting form on the basis of so few matches? Plus, 4 out of 5 sounds great on paper but with 75% of matches yet to play it's way too early to be going this overboard.

Why not wait until the end of the season? Is that too much to ask?

I'll not beat this drum any longer because I'm starting to bore myself now but all this 'tough love, 'kick up the arse', 'tells it how it is, 'outspoken', 'ruthless' stuff is a smokescreen. I've been on the receiving end of all that sh*t at various times throughout my life and in every other working environment, it's called bullying. Always has been, always will be. But football seems to get a free pass. Morison gets a free pass. Well it'll never happen from me.

I'll measure Morison at the end of the season by both results and whether he learns to take ownership and acknowledge he's responsible. Right now, to me. he's a 38 hot-head in a top job he doesn't deserve. I want to see him earn it.

I've already said we should wait until this end of the season. There's no reason not to. I'm just saying I like what I see and hear so far.

[NYCBlue]

I had to look up the word hyperbole because I swear it's not enough to describe what I've just read.

He's had plenty of praise for the results but we've only played 25% of the matches left this season since the new signings. Look at the fixture list and measure us by the scalps we've taken from top teams at the end of the season before we start burning incense to the shrine of Morison.

Out of the 5 we've played, Forest is the biggest win for me. We still have to play Derby twice. I want to see what those two matches throw up because they're going to be juicy encounters against a side managed by Rooney, another Rookie. Please can we be careful about projecting form on the basis of so few matches? Plus, 4 out of 5 sounds great on paper but with 75% of matches yet to play it's way too early to be going this overboard.

Why not wait until the end of the season? Is that too much to ask?

I'll not beat this drum any longer because I'm starting to bore myself now but all this 'tough love, 'kick up the arse', 'tells it how it is, 'outspoken', 'ruthless' stuff is a smokescreen. I've been on the receiving end of all that sh*t at various times throughout my life and in every other working environment, it's called bullying. Always has been, always will be. But football seems to get a free pass. Morison gets a free pass. Well it'll never happen from me.

I'll measure Morison at the end of the season by both results and whether he learns to take ownership and acknowledge he's responsible. Right now, to me. he's a 38 hot-head in a top job he doesn't deserve. I want to see him earn it.

I have no beef with you. I think you're a good poster. "A 38 (year-old) hot-head in a top job he doesn't deserve"? He's got us playing football. we're (almost) safe. The last two managers were sacked because we were in freefall. If you don't like Morsison, give me a
name. And as for hyperbole, how about "top job"?

[dml1954]

Actually just thinking about this. I can't win can I? I don't know the rules of your game(s). If I write him off = bad. If he wins me over = bad. Having new information and forming an opinion = bad. Reasoning like an adult = bad. Hypocrisy = good. Blimey, I do know the rules after all!

Just making the point that you now tell other people to give it to the end of the season before fully judging Morison, whilst at the same time already having written off his abilities as a manager and person. Now that is hypocrisy.