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Thread: Uche

  1. #126

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I'd rather see him coming on with 15 minutes to go in a game we need a goal, than James Collins tbh.
    Possible that he goes in the summer?

  2. #127

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I guess he does it with the younger ones, because he wants them to toughen up and raise their level.
    If a loaned player isnt performing then we just won't loan him again presumably
    I just think of you are going to go with the straight talking, no nonsense approach then you should call out some senior players too otherwise it makes you look a bit of bully when you’re only doing it to the young lads.

    Take the Bournemouth game for example. He defended Bacuna and called Isaak a hinderance. Surely going down to 10 man because Bacuna assaulted a player was more of a hinderance!!!

    Just because Uche is on loan shouldn’t matter, we are paying his wages and he’s our player for another 3 months.

  3. #128

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I just think of you are going to go with the straight talking, no nonsense approach then you should call out some senior players too otherwise it makes you look a bit of bully when you’re only doing it to the young lads.

    Just because he’s on loan shouldn’t matter, we are paying his wages and he’s our players for another 3 months.
    It also comes down to what questions he's being asked as well I guess, the local media are always going to be more interested in our young prospects than an on loan player, so they're probably going to ask him more often about their performances

  4. #129

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Possible that he goes in the summer?
    It was a poor signing. Another that’s represented by USM.

  5. #130

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Possible that he goes in the summer?
    I wouldn't be surprised

  6. #131

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I guess he does it with the younger ones, because he wants them to toughen up and raise their level.
    If a loaned player isnt performing then we just won't loan him again presumably
    I've been pretty one sided in defending defending SM against things he's said because I believed in what I was saying.

    He hooked Watters because he wasn't doing his job (his words) and he wants points on the board so made changes to affect the game positively..
    Uche, our player or not had 2 golden opportunities to do something productive and change a draw into a win, he made the wrong one both times, SM should definitely lay it out fair and why not the same way he's done it to our youngsters?

    You can't just be a straight talker when it suits you.

  7. #132

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    It was a poor signing. Another that’s represented by USM.
    He was a free - presumably intended to be backup for Kieffer Moore, we've had a lot worse signings, but I don't rate him, and it seems the manager doesn't either.

  8. #133

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    It was a poor signing. Another that’s represented by USM.
    He's not what we need is he!!

  9. #134

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    He's not what we need is he!!
    I think he’s a league one player. Had a good season with Luton but at 32 his best years are behind him.
    Reminds me of the Rickie Lambert signing.

  10. #135

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    It also comes down to what questions he's being asked as well I guess, the local media are always going to be more interested in our young prospects than an on loan player, so they're probably going to ask him more often about their performances
    If that’s Mark Harris or Max Watters who make those poor choices yesterday SM is saying we should have had all 3 points if they had made better decisions wether he is prompted or not.

    Personally, unless someone is fully walking around like they don’t give a shit like a Bacuna I don’t want to see anyone called out in public. I don’t think long term it helps. By all means lay into them behind closed doors if they are not doing what was asked of them but I think he goes too far with the public criticism on times.

  11. #136

    Re: Uche

    I'd be very surprised if Morison doesn't call him out on the two chances he had to lay the ball off. I'd assume the squad would watch the game together on Mondays these days no?

  12. #137

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    He was a free - presumably intended to be backup for Kieffer Moore, we've had a lot worse signings, but I don't rate him, and it seems the manager doesn't either.
    A free yes but it’s still a wage for two years. We are
    probably going to have to pay off part contract if we are to cut our losses in summer because I don’t see him getting another championship move.

  13. #138

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    I'd be very surprised if Morison doesn't call him out on the two chances he had to lay the ball off. I'd assume the squad would watch the game together on Mondays these days no?
    You would hope he would speak to him to explain how selfish he was I’m talking about lambasting him in public which he has done to others.

  14. #139

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    You would hope he would speak to him to explain how selfish he was I’m talking about lambasting him in public which he has done to others.
    Maybe's reached the conclusion that two wrongs don't make a right.

  15. #140

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Maybe's reached the conclusion that two wrongs don't make a right.
    I hope so, I want to be able to like a Cardiff city manager for a change

    I still harbour irrational feelings towards Russell Slade and he left years ago and don’t get me started on Colin

  16. #141

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I hope so, I want to be able to like a Cardiff city manager for a change

    I still harbour irrational feelings towards Russell Slade and he left years ago and don’t get me started on Colin



    Me too. And I'm actually still disappointed in myself for thinking Colin was OK for a time

  17. #142

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
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    Me too. And I'm actually still disappointed in myself for thinking Colin was OK for a time

  18. #143

    Re: Uche

    if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

    Don't want either as a first choice striker though

  19. #144

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

    Don't want either as a first choice striker though
    Clubs are skint post covid there is absolutely no chance we are paying 750k for Uche or getting 750k for Collins. That is delusional I’m afraid.

  20. #145

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Clubs are skint post covid there is absolutely no chance we are paying 750k for Uche or getting 750k for Collins. That is delusional I’m afraid.
    Middlesborough wanted 750k for him in January- well that is what was reported anyway

  21. #146

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

    Don't want either as a first choice striker though
    I’m glad you’re not managing my finances

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    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    I'd be very surprised if Morison doesn't call him out on the two chances he had to lay the ball off. I'd assume the squad would watch the game together on Mondays these days no?
    From what Morison has said previously there is a full squad review of the previous match - clips prepared by the analysts covering the good, bad and ugly. There are also individual review meetings with one player and members of the coaching team - of the sort he has described with Davies, Colwill and Watters.

    I hope the same approach is used for older team members and loan players - backed up by tailored coaching sessions. Morison may feel that there is more value in investing time and effort in younger players who will be here next season and beyond, and who are learning and developing in front of us, but most of the squad are capable of better performances than they have normally produced this season. Vaulks, Nelson and even Bacuna have had games (half games in Bacuna's case this season) where they have played well - but then they lose concentration, play to their weaknesses not strengths, start making soft decisions, or (criminally) stop trying.

    They all have an A game and if they produced it more often, despite their limitations, most fans would back them - not slaughter them on message boards. Morison doesn't have to publicly 'call them out' (not for the academy graduates either), but he cannot let it go either.

  23. #148

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Middlesborough wanted 750k for him in January- well that is what was reported anyway
    What Boro want and what they will get from us are two very different valuations I would imagine. We haven’t got a pot to piss in, we won’t be spending 750k on a back up striker and there certainly won’t be any clubs prepared to pay 750k for James Collins.
    He was a free last year and now can’t get in our squad so how you think we could get 750k for him I don’t know? A spot of Sunday lunchtime drinking maybe?

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    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    if Uche is available for 750k in the summer I'd be fine with us signing him as an option from the bench - especially if we could offload Collins for a similar amount to someone.

    Don't want either as a first choice striker though
    You're kidding right? You keep going on about how tight money is at the club but you'd be happy signing Ikpeazu for 750k?

  25. #150

    Re: Uche

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    You're kidding right? You keep going on about how tight money is at the club but you'd be happy signing Ikpeazu for 750k?
    Bonkers

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