The War starts Putin announces "Military Operation" in Ukraine. Explosions heard in Kyiv

[Alfresco]

Seems like the UK are poking Putin with a stick while the likes of Germany and France are poking him with a feather.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Seems like the UK are poking Putin with a stick while the likes of Germany and France are poking him with a feather.

What do you base that theory on?

[Optimistic Nick]

What do you base that theory on?

Russia has singled out the UK as being the centre of their perceived injustice over sanctions. Not quite sure why, but they have.

[Wales-Bales]

Russia claim US bio weapons labs located in Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSXRYl9LNPA

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Russia has singled out the UK as being the centre of their perceived injustice over sanctions. Not quite sure why, but they have.

Doing their mukkas a favour by allowing targets for sanctions 6 months to move their assets hardly seems severe.

[lardy]

What do the red and blue dots even represent?
That woman just shits on the government constantly. (Which is hard not to do a lot of the time).

Never a mention of the humanitarian aid, Weapons, Training logistical help from this country?

I hope to **** Labour win the next election regardless if it's good or bad for the country just to stop ****ing the tweets.

The key is on the top of the chart.

[blue matt]

The B52s come and go regularly to practice integrated ops with NATO air forces. It's nothing new.

(Of course what they're actually carrying may be )

only 2 at a time though, this time 4 of them

[Wash DC Blue]

The key is on the top of the chart.

Not really.
It doesn't indicate what the sanctions are.

Neither does it mention the fact that Germany filled the war coffers and is continuing to import Russian Gas.

Nor the fact that the Mayor of Kiev has thanked the UK for its support while initially stating that the German response was a joke.

[lardy]

Not really.
It doesn't indicate what the sanctions are.

Neither does it mention the fact that Germany filled the war coffers and is continuing to import Russian Gas.

Nor the fact that the Mayor of Kiev has thanked the UK for its support while initially stating that the German response was a joke.

I think you're right that more detail and background is needed - but that is what the red and blue dots mean

[Wash DC Blue]

I think you're right that more detail and background is needed - but that is what the red and blue dots mean

Can't argue with that

[The Lone Gunman]

Read his book.

No thanks. It looks ridiculously boring.

[Monster munch]

only 2 at a time though, this time 4 of them

Its when the B2 stealth bombers start landing at fairford we'll really have a problem as the russkies will almost certainly see that as a sign of aggression.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Its when the B2 stealth bombers start landing at fairford we'll really have a problem as the russkies will almost certainly see that as a sign of aggression.

At the moment it's just a war between Russia and the west-backed Ukraine. It's becoming increasingly likely that Russia isn't going to 'win' this, but how they lose it is more significant. At some stage, however unpalatable, Putin has to be offered even the tiniest of olive branches. If not, I can see him making demands as he's forced into submission, and threatening heavy bombardment, use of major weaponry, if no concessions are forthcoming.

[Wales-Bales]

Russia claim US bio weapons labs located in Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSXRYl9LNPA

It's no longer a conspiracy theory, and if any biological weapons from these labs are released it was Russia who did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYApPRCd5-M

[az city]

It's no longer a conspiracy theory, and if any biological weapons from these labs are released it was Russia who did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYApPRCd5-M

I must have missed the statement that the facilities are US labs.

[JamesWales]

At the moment it's just a war between Russia and the west-backed Ukraine. It's becoming increasingly likely that Russia isn't going to 'win' this, but how they lose it is more significant. At some stage, however unpalatable, Putin has to be offered even the tiniest of olive branches. If not, I can see him making demands as he's forced into submission, and threatening heavy bombardment, use of major weaponry, if no concessions are forthcoming.

Absolutely right.

That's what slightly concerns me about the lust for endless sanctions. At some point Putin needs a route out where he can save face.

[The Lone Gunman]

That's what slightly concerns me about the lust for endless sanctions. At some point Putin needs a route out where he can save face.

A lust for endless sanctions? You sound like this has been going on for months on end. It's only been a couple of weeks.

[blue matt]

Absolutely right.

That's what slightly concerns me about the lust for endless sanctions. At some point Putin needs a route out where he can save face.

Only way out of this is that he is overthrown by his own people, the only way thats going to happen is sanctions and taking life tough in the USSR

[delmbox]

It's no longer a conspiracy theory, and if any biological weapons from these labs are released it was Russia who did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYApPRCd5-M

there's a rare chance here to combine a Covid origin conspiracy theory and an Ukranian/US bio lab conspiracy, let's hope it's not wasted

[A Quiet Monkfish]

A lust for endless sanctions? You sound like this has been going on for months on end. It's only been a couple of weeks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60679658

If things don't go well for Putin he'll argue, however irrational it may be, that the west is declaring war on Russia. When the sanctions really start to hit Russian people whilst at the same time their sons and brothers and fathers are being killed by British guns, the mood in Russia may well become more anti-west than anti-Putin.

[Tuerto]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60679658

If things don't go well for Putin he'll argue, however irrational it may be, that the west is declaring war on Russia. When the sanctions really start to hit Russian people whilst at the same time their sons and brothers and fathers are being killed by British guns, the mood in Russia may well become more anti-west than anti-Putin.

There are loads of connotations to this situation. One being the rise in far right groups gaining momentum and wanting to attack russia from the West.

[goats]

Absolutely right.

That's what slightly concerns me about the lust for endless sanctions. At some point Putin needs a route out where he can save face.

Just let him have crimea and the eastern areas that are mainly Russian anyway officially. Not sure about Ukraine joining NATO but if Russia agree not to invade the country then they don’t need to…for now or as long as Putin lives maybe?

[truthpaste]

Just let him have crimea and the eastern areas that are mainly Russian anyway officially. Not sure about Ukraine joining NATO but if Russia agree not to invade the country then they don’t need to…for now or as long as Putin lives maybe?

"if Russia agree not to invade"

I seem to remember them doing that at some point in history?

Oh yes, it was February 2022

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Just let him have crimea and the eastern areas that are mainly Russian anyway officially. Not sure about Ukraine joining NATO but if Russia agree not to invade the country then they don’t need to…for now or as long as Putin lives maybe?

You mean get Russia to sign an agreement never to invade Ukraine again, and stand by that agreement?
Russia was one of the signatories to the Minsk 2 agreement in 2015, only to declare this year that the agreement no longer existed.

[Gofer Blue]

Just when I imagined things couldn't get any worse, maternity and children's hospital bombed in Mariupol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60657155

Sadly folks in Russia will not see these pictures. If they did, then surely even the Putin die-hards might stop and ask questions about only military targets being attacked.