Reply With QuoteThis is real lifeOriginally Posted by chrisp_1927
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Well at least you've got it off your chest properly now. You'll feel better for a good rant. It always helps me !!
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From a conspiracy theory to the UN Security Council in 3 days.
UNITED NATIONS — The U.N. Security Council will meet on Friday to discuss what Russia claims are “the military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ddc_story.html
Hopefully the opposition on the homefront will continue to increase. Last poll i saw suggested around 60% supported the war, with anti war sentiment running quite low. Obviously some respondents may have felt they had to toe the party line to keep out of trouble.
If dissenting voices in the press keep appearing then hopefully those figures will start to reverse.
Certainly takes some guts to go on state controlled TV and challenge their lies. Very brave individuals.
Supporting the liberation? I reckon as more and more normal Russians get wind of what’s really going on, the tide will hopefully turn.
What Russian state media says or who they interview on the streets means little as we all know it’s propaganda guff. Plenty of Russian kids will be coming home in body bags if they decide to liberate Kyiv too. Some news channel was showing dead Russian soldiers lying on the roads around the city last night….
Me, nukes, God turning a woman into a pillar of salt etcIt was, and scoffers in the last days are also mentioned in the Book, so they also get a mention
Indeed. The young adults are the sector of Russian society that will be more aware of events via social media and the internet as well as arriving back home in body bags - and I understand that there is a growing tension between the younger generation and their elders, many of the latter who swallow Russian State media whole.
Putin has really f***ed up big time. Not that it's any consolation to Ukrainians.
Oh, and the Russians have to contemplate how the hell they can occupy and control Ukraine ad infinitum.
'Blessed be the scoffers, for they will puncture the inflated fantasists'It was, and scoffers in the last days are also mentioned in the Book, so they also get a mention
Well let me help you with the "etc"
1. Their people will become like walking corpses, their flesh rotting away. Their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. (from Zechariah 14:12)
2. The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many people died from the water, because it had been made bitter. (Revelation 8:10-11)
A prominent Russian writer recently produced a tattered old Bible and with a practiced hand turned to Revelations. ''Listen,'' he said, ''this is incredible: 'And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; and the name of the star is called wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.' '' / In a dictionary, he showed the Ukrainian word for wormwood, a bitter wild herb used as a tonic in rural Russia: chernobyl.
The writer, an atheist, was hardly alone in pointing out the apocalyptic reference to the star called chernobyl.
3. While you earnestly look for and await the coming of the day of God. For on this day the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the [material] elements will melt with intense heat! (2 Peter 3:12)
I've just chosen 3 examples from many where the Bible speaks of future events. Even 100 years ago in 1922, none of our ancestors would have understood HOW any of the above could happen, however in very recent times we can now have the understanding of all three.
So tell me this, how did (1) Zechariah (520BC), (2) John (96AD) or Peter (60AD) actually write about these things with words that only make sense to readers from the 1940's onwards?
Article > https://www.nytimes.com/1986/07/26/w...-and-fear.html
Last edited by truthpaste; 11-03-22 at 10:01. Reason: link
That's great and all, except the Ukranian word for Wormwood isn't anything like Chernobyl.
this took about 30 seconds of googling to establish.
Would be great to know the feeling on the 'Russian street' . I share your optimism, and am inclined to see the small acts of dissent as cracks in the dam. Just waiting for the dam to burst and the Russians to oust putin.
Do have a nagging doubt mind that maybe putin has enough support, and has managed to stitch up state institutions to such a degree that he can just keep pushing on. The Russian military seem to place zero value on the lives of their soldiers. All logic suggests that these losses have to hurt him, but maybe they won't.
Although Truthpaste's biblical screeds amuse me enormously when there is scant historical evidence of talking snakes and the life of Jesus, the Chernobyl etymology appears to be correct.
Wikipedia states: "The city's name is the same as one of the Ukrainian names for Artemisia vulgaris, mugwort or common wormwood, which is Ukrainian: чорнобиль, romanized: chornóbyl' "
Can you confirm that you are indeed a new poster or an old poster under a new guise?Ah, so the aim is to wear new posters down within six months - challenge accepted
I admit I've gone a bit heavy with the Yemen comparisons and am very critical of the US and UK governments but it's an area of interest for me that I've felt strongly about for a while.
Y'know, not like the lesser beings who've only been enraged by Putin and Russia for the last few weeks
I work for a Russian company, well at least it was until it was bought out recently by a massive yank one. Anecdotal only but they guys in my team who had to literally pick up their families and fly to either Turkey or Serbia within a few days and pretty much leaving everything behind, you have no doubt how they feel. We have about 200 left whose access will be cut off this weekend, they have about a week to get out, almost all have no access to money once outside. They are embarrassed and apologetic to a man.
However, never underestimate the power of media propaganda, there are people in this thread who think the UK/US/NATO don't commit war crimes
Sounds a bit like word association football. Interestingly, Truthpaste's synopsis includes a straight lift from the NY Times article mentioned below
The city is named after the Ukrainian word for mugwort (Artemisia vulgaris), which is "chornobyl". The word is a combination of chornyi (чорний, black) and byllia (билля, grass blades or stalks), hence it literally means black grass or black stalks.
Sometimes chornobyl is erroneously translated as simply "wormwood" (which most commonly refers to Artemisia absinthium), with consequent apocalyptic associations, probably originating from a New York Times article by Serge Schmemann, Chernobyl Fallout: Apocalyptic Tale, July 25, 1986. The article quoted an unnamed "prominent Russian writer" as claiming the Ukrainian word for wormwood was chernobyl.
https://academickids.com/encyclopedi....php/Chernobyl
I'm not convinced that you can claim that etymology - Mugwort (Artemesia Vulgaris) is not Wormwood (Artemesia Absinthium) - it is in the same genus, much like cashew nuts and poison ivy are, but they are not the same.
Wormwood and mugwort would have been well known to the ancients and that Wormwood was poisonous in large quantities, Mugwort is not.
If we suspend all rational thought for a few minutes and accept that there were people 2000 years ago who could see the future (perhaps after ingesting some wormwood), and they claim that "wormwood" would cause poisoning of waters in the future, it is another monumental leap to say that by wormwood they actually mean mugwort, because in a language that hadn't even been invented at the time of the prophecy they would have a common name that was similar, and then in another language that also didnt exist at the time a nuclear power plant would be named after mugwort.
I work for a Russian company, well at least it was until it was bought out recently by a massive yank one. Anecdotal only but they guys in my team who had to literally pick up their families and fly to either Turkey or Serbia within a few days and pretty much leaving everything behind, you have no doubt how they feel. We have about 200 left whose access will be cut off this weekend, they have about a week to get out, almost all have no access to money once outside. They are embarrassed and apologetic to a man.
However, never underestimate the power of media propaganda, there are people in this thread who think the UK/US/NATO don't commit war crimes
Must be one hell of a decision to have to make. Unbelievable really to think that all these lives are being turned upside down because of the actions/decisions of 1 man
A question for any contributors of long standing: in your experience, has there ever been a period during this message board's history when it's been host to as many fruit loops as it is now?
No, and I'm proud to one of those loops ( well at least I admit to it )
This behaviour all goes back to Brexit .
Looking at other footy boards they don't seem to get so wound up , must be a grumpy old man ( opps person ) Welsh ante Tory thingy.
The scoffers went for the two loaves and fish fishes.
Tricky question as I am not sure that 1 poster = 1 fruit loop is a constant equation. I think Splott David's reign would give today a run for its money. Also significant world events do tend to bring the extremists and narcissists (also not mutually exclusive sets) out of the wormwood.......I mean woodwork!
No, and it's probably prophesied somewhere
There is a bowl full of fruit loops at the moment. One person, with a lot of time on his hands, is likely behind a fair number of them.
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