Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
Maybe. I think Cardiff really struggling for identity on and off the pitch currently but wales have both.

The teams play in the same stadium but the difference in atmospheres is ridiculous. Wales games are so loud and passionate whereas Cardiff is lukewarm. Even when 33,000 every week in premier league the atmosphere was poor and the only time people really got excited was when an away fan was in the home end.

V Swansea a few weeks ago the only song sung loud was about fathers sexually abusing 10 year old boys.

And don't even start about on the pitch.....

For me it's wales every time.
Not sure what the opposite of rose tinted spectacles is but you seem to suffer from it - City on a good day in any big game has a superb atmosphere ( yes admittedly all too rare) and in the other hand, if Wales were 0-5 down at home it would be a little flat too.