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There could indeed be 200,000 names on the club’s database. The list would include several friends and relatives of mine who are now dead and others who haven’t been to a game for many years.
If you genuinely believe CCFC has a fanbase that numbers anything like 200,000, you’re batshit crazy.
Your first paragraph is exactly what I meant …. 200k on a data base which includes email
I would say in todays tech world it’s means a fair bit.
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How many trust members are there anyway ?
Recently collections for the food banks, Ukraine,
Campaign for safe standing
They produce a magazine.
The Trust chairman produces the best financial analysis of our clubs accounts every year.
Helped with the March against racism
Raised money for the disabled supporters transport
Helped improve the memorial garden
They did have the occasional meeting with the club until theses were stopped.
Let’s face it apart from Dalman’s half hearted interviews full of contradiction and inaccuracies we are totally in the dark as to what’s going on. TBH I don’t think he’s that informed either .
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I really care about this club and want to know what the owners ( who themselves tell us are merely ‘custodians’ for the fans) plans are- as we haven’t got a clue .
Do you want a link ?
https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/con...-good-database
I'm not sure why it doesn't make sense to you. I said I let my membership lapse. I did not imply any criticism nor feel the need to explain why I let it lapse. That was my decision as it was mine to join. Of course it made the Trust even smaller than it was. In truth it was never very big and after the initial membership surge I think it would be fair to say it struggled to attract new members and batted above its representation.
Top post.
The Trust’s open letter was clumsily written but the intent and the message was spot on.
I have been a Trust member from the start and really appreciate the unpaid and seemingly unvalued work that is put in by a small number of elected representatives. I should do more myself - but that feels difficult living over 200 miles from the stadium.
The club’s response is poor on every level. No attempt to respond to the contents and a brush off based on personal abuse and dismissing the Trust’s status - despite engaging with the Trust up to last year. There will be some happy clappy customers but otherwise it reads like another own goal.
That said I would like to know more about the club claims about the Trust status with the organisations it quoted and the reason for the breakdown in relationships last year.
The Trust is not in a strong position but it needs to come out with a response to the club statement - positive and respectful, but maintaining the challenge to Vincent Tan to improve governance and communication.
Surely the question re what the trust has done is the wrong question. The question should be what could be the trust be?
Maybe the club aren't so worried about what the trust has done but at what it could be and what it could expose?
Supporters club have their say
"Cardiff City Supporters club (CCSC) are aware of the recent issues highlighted on social media by the Cardiff City Supporters Trust and of the football clubs response. CCSC are unaware of the details surrounding these issues and therefore are unable to make any direct comment.
However as an organisation, CCSC has always had a healthy working relationship with the football club which has been cemented over the years by regular meetings with board members and senior staff at the club. These meetings have always facilitated honest, frank and respectful exchanges of views from both parties. The football club has provided us with regular opportunities to convey the views and concerns of both our members and fans in general, and we believe that they have where possible, taken these views into account.
As an organisation we have no issues with the current level of communication and relationship between ourselves and Cardiff City football Club"
Am I right in thinking the Trust has been given access to a room under the Ninian stand for several seasons?
Never many folk there, as I recall - but presumably the Club has continued to provide this facility (however small).
It’s not true at all. It’s absolute nonsense. Football supporters are not even close to being on a par with cinema goers.
Nobody ‘supports’ a cinema. Nobody travels all over the country (or Europe) supporting their local cinema while it competes with rival cinemas. Nobody buys cinema merchandise. Nobody joins a cinema supporters club. Nobody wears a replica cinema shirt. There are no cinema league tables, no cinema championships, no cinema play-offs, no cinema cup competitions. Nobody cares who manages a cinema or who works in a cinema. Nobody debates the merits or otherwise of cinemas on tv shows, radio shows, websites, podcasts, in newspapers, in magazines, in fanzines, etc, etc, etc.
Don’t tell me an intelligent guy like you ever really thought that football supporters are just like cinema goers?
You’re right to suggest that Cardiff City supporters are considered to be no more than customers by the current regime, but that’s certainly not been the case throughout the club’s history and it’s not the case at most professional football clubs either.