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Although it's based on historical attendances , I think this gets it about right
We are a mid placed second tier football club , wish we weren't but there you go
If you do it on historical league position, we’re also around the same position.
Chelsea, as stated numerous times, a historically well supported club prior to investment, and it’s lean times in the 80’s where it nearly went bankrupt due to the construction of the East Stand.
Chelsea are one of the biggest clubs in the country
My mate from Southport , an Everton fan is always saying the same
I say to him if Everton were relegated to Sunderlands position and stayed in league 1 for a few seasons they wouldn't be getting 30000 a week like Sunderland do
Chelseas support in the 80s was utter gash. They were poorly supported until Matthew Harding came along in the 90s.
Big club my arse
The support of all clubs in the eighties was poor
Have you looked at ours ?
Leeds v Cardiff , 1983 , 1000 of us
12500 at Elland Road
Birmingham City , Promotion game v us , about to be relegated, 2500 of us
15000 at St Andrews
Newcastle v Us , 1984
14500 St James Park
But Chelsea and Newcastle etc, as proved by the figures are generally big clubs with big support
Unfortunately we ain't
I never made comment about us. I know exactly were we sit in the grand scheme of things. We are about a middling championship team in terms of history and support.
You think Chelsea are a big club, their historic league attendances would disagree with you.
Top 6 in the all-time attendance league. Not too shabby.
Manchester United – 40,360
Liverpool – 34,763
Arsenal – 34,701
Tottenham – 34,101
Newcastle – 32,757
Chelsea – 32,473
I find that very hard to believe, given Man united have had an average less 40,360 for 7 seasons since 1949/50
The point is you said Chelsea had poor crowds in the eighties ......so did most British clubs
They had a season when they averaged 18000
That season we averaged 2904
Same with Newcastle , a season of poor gates and people think they are fickle fans whilst the team we supported were getting shocking gates
Considering we have spent most of our existence in the lower leagues it's to be expected. If we had spent as many years in the top league as Man utd then we would be much higher.
We have spent many years in the lower leagues because we dont have the fan base or interest in ccfc
When we went down from the championship in 1986 ish it took us 17 years to get back
It's taken Sunderland 3 years and Sheff Weds won't be long coming back up
That's why they are big clubs
Pompey have been down a few years but I doubt it will take them long to get back up
Out of interest, do you really think that if we went down to League 1 we'd get sub 10,000 crowds again, or even worse, crowds of less than 5,000?
I don't. Not at all. Things have changed quite a bit since then.
Our crowds have fluctuated over the years - success = more through the turnstiles. At our current stadium we've had 4 seasons where our average crowd has been below 20k. This is our best run of home attendances since relegation from Division 1 in 1962.
As for Sunderland, in the 80s their crowd virtually halved after promotion to Division 1 and then relegation to Division 3. Their crowds doubled after they left Roker Park. Ours increased after we left Ninian Park and we haven't looked back.
The 80s and 90s were shit, but they ain't coming back.
In the 30s, 40's and 50s they got crowds of over 70,000. Their record attendance at Stamford Bridge is over 80,000. I'm no fan of Chelsea. They're probably my least favorite club. All I did was google a table of historical attendances and Chelsea were 6th on the list. If you don't believe it, do your own research.
If we were getting crowds of about 17 k when struggling this season I have no doubt whatsoever our crowds would be 12 k or so in the first season in league 1 and if we stayed there then crowds of around 10000 would be the norm
I travelled several times to watch us against Coventry in the new stadium up there and 15000 , with 1000 of us looked bloody awful
We may think we are a bigger club than Coventry but we ain't