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An American talking sense!
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I've always felt that politics and sport shouldn't mix but I wholeheartedly agree with what he's done here
An American talking sense!
Absolutely appalling. Just don't know where to begin with imagining the utter grief the parents must be going through.
There is absolutely no justification whatsoever for anyone to legally hold weapons of that nature. It's just unbelievable but tragically so common.
Fair play to Kerr.
I was sent the racist supermarket mass murder video the other week and was left so disturbed by it. America is ****ed. Too many nutjobs about to allow gun ownership.
One of the parents of the victims posted a tribute to his daughter. He says 'Why?!', he's also wearing a shirt that says 'f*ck your gun free zones'
Honestly, thick as shit.
And this is the fifth or sixth time Kerr - a basketball coach - has made a similar speech. His own dad was shot and killed years ago.
Absolute joke of a country.
I never knew that - reading up on it, killed by jihadists in Beirut.
Local Einstein David Cotterill has just posted on his Instagram that this is a false flag attack.. it's still up on his stories if you want to view it.
He's completely lost it.
Nothing will change.
It's one of those partizan issues for some people who aren't willing to cede any ground whatsoever.
That's where we are sadly.
I'm sure his views on Covid and Ukraine are leftfield as well.
I despair.
Sadly true.
As baffling as it seems to us, I do understand the custom and culture behind the right to bear arms. It is pointless us bemoaning that because it is ingrained in their culture.
What I really don't understand is why the need for assault weapons is such a big issue? I can understand-in theory-why a pistol can protect your family, keep the government at bay, uphold your amendment rights etc. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. I also understand the principle behind hunting rifles and what have you.
Whats baffles me is the assault weapons - why would anyone need them? How can anyone argue in favour of them? I assume the argument is that if the government have them or if criminals have them, then so to should "the good guys?"
That seems to be the argument from the NRA and most Republicans.
Hence Ted Cruz's answer to mass murder in a school is to give guns to the teachers and the caretakers, employ armed guards and (at some time in the future) maybe propose that 3 year olds also go armed into the kindergarten.
All for their own safety!
And if mass murderers are walking around with military grade weapons, the only sure defence is to match them up.
MAD. Deterrence. And a country armed to the gills with instant death.
Whistle the Star Spangled Banner and Praise The Lord!
Losing a child in normal circumstances is difficult to get over.I lost my son aged 4 to cancer in 1985.
Losing a child in a mass shooting must be totally unbearable.
A plea.
I think discussing issues like this is important but I'd like to ask everyone not to engage in broad offensive generalizations that Americans are "all crazy", it's a "****ed-up country" and we are all "gun-loving loons" etc because it's unfair. It's akin to asserting all muslims are terrorists.
The US is a huge country with diverse ethnicities, subcultures and outlooks. In fact that is, to me, one of the things that makes it so fascinating and beautiful. Clearly there is something wrong with a political system that is unwilling and/or unable to deal with gun violence. There are many completely entrenched views on the gun-lobby side born of ignorance and laziness. BUT there are many people who don't share those views.
And for the record: born in Cardiff, live in Arizona, US citizen, UK subject.
So you have a hand gun to protect your family ( in America that seems the norm, nothing wrong with that statement )
so a intruder breaks into your house, he has a hand gun, you have a hand gun, fairly even, now think of the advantage you would have when you break out a AR-15 with extended mag, you have the upper hand, of course the intruder might also have the same AR-15 though breaking into a house with a AR would be pretty cumbersome but who the hell knows
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Be nice if you can offer the same courtesy to those you disagree with on Brexit/Politics.
The next step will be tactical nukes - for the homicidal burglar and the trigger-happy householder. You can't be too safe!
Or is there just possibly an alternative argument to the escalating arms race promoted by Cruz, the NRA etc.
De-escalation maybe?
What a senseless loss of life. Will never understand it.
Jeez!!! i hope this isn't serious? on the other hand there are no place for jokes in this thread
you dont think thats what a fair % of NRA member / USA gun owners think ? ? ?
You're accusing me of something I've never done.
Serious question-
As a "foreigner"in the US, are you allowed to have a gun?
And am I right thinking that Arizona isn't far behind Texas in gun attitudes?
I respectfully disagree.
I respectfully accept your right to be wrong (especially about Brexit).
That statement is a joke! Right?
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