Train strikes

[Majorblue]

Re: Train strikes

As I gave up driving a few years ago the trains were vitally important to me.

However, with the WFH revolution now less so.

As such I am somewhat detached from the argument but I can see why the Union has concerns but it is highly unlikely that the train operating companies are going to offer anywhere near what is being demanded.

It will probably rumble on for a few months with a settlement that satisfies no one in the end.

Meanwhile services will be cut, prices will rise and what does run will be unreliable at best.

My glass is officially half empty today.

[JamesWales]

Re: Train strikes

Solidarity to the workers.

Mick Lynch is superb. He’s knocking the media out of the park. I wish the industry I worked in had someone like that fighting for us.

He is a formidable speaker as was Bob Crow.

[William Treseder]

Re: Train strikes

The average rail workers wage is £33k, the average train drivers wage is £50k+.

This strike doesn't include train drivers so the average earnings of those striking is considerably less than £33k.

Train drivers have good wages due to strong union representation. Rather than criticising those that strike, why not support workers in their efforts for better pay. Their win is our win surely?

If the unions want to get the public on side, do what the Japanese bus drivers did. When they went on strike they carried on working but refused to take fares, ensuring the public were not affected but the employers were.

Although I do have some sympathy with Grant Schapps and the idea that working practices need to modernise, this invariably means jobs losses. The government appear to use this excuse to refuse any kind of eaningful negotiation, whereas if the employer could agree to a reduction in staff numbers over years through natural wastage, the unions and its members would be onside.

If the Japanese bus drivers kept working, then they weren’t on strike ?

[Feedback]

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If the Japanese bus drivers kept working, then they weren’t on strike ?

Their action was to work, but not collect fares.

[William Treseder]

Re: Train strikes

Their action was to work, but not collect fares.

How would that help them get a pay rise?
More likely to get them sacked.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Train strikes

The Tories are scum

[Feedback]

Re: Train strikes

How would that help them get a pay rise?
More likely to get them sacked.

Not when every single driver did it.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Train strikes

I'm amazed. I've been waiting for a thread about the train strikes for some time now but there is absolutely nothing.
We have threads on here about just about everything from partygate to immigration to curry gate, Scottish independence, anything, even football occasionally, but regarding the train strikes...nothing!
The silence is almost deafening!
why is that? Shirly someone must have an opinion on it!

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php?453292-RMT-Strikes&p=5303916#post5303916

[chrisp_1927]

Re: Train strikes

I Feel for the passenger's this week, huge levels of disruption. The government have orchestrated this in my opinion. Refused to speak to the unions about pay for 3 years, so I don't see what other choice the unions had. Was a bit worried to see an Rmt official suggesting that these strikes could go til Christmas though. Not sure I can afford to lose 3 days pay a month for that long. Personally I'm hoping a rise of around 4% can be negotiated and we can get back to normal.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Train strikes

Secondly, this won't solve inflation, if anything it will make it worse. If everyone tries to get a 10% wage rise to combat inflation, then the cost of what they are selling will quite likely also rise by 10%, unless there is a miraculous increase in productivity of course, which is unlikely.

It wouldn’t be an issue if companies decided to absorb the difference. But no in the shareholder first world we live in it never will.

Someone’s got to pay and it’ll always be the easiest targets I.e the individuals

[+ the native hipster]

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The Tories are scum

aren't scot rail on strike? is krankie a tory?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Train strikes

aren't scot rail on strike? is krankie a tory?

She's just a twat

[+ the native hipster]

Re: Train strikes

She's just a twat

lesson to everyone there is always common ground to be found

[Organ Morgan.]

Re: Train strikes

I will always vote Tory.

You swine.

[chrisp_1927]

Re: Train strikes

aren't scot rail on strike? is krankie a tory?

They're not actually. The SNP and the unions came to an agreement up there. Even krankie could manage a better deal than Michael green/grant shapps.