Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Didn't think he gave a very good account of himself.

[JamesWales]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Pearcey, you should know that once James Wales has spoken on a subject, that’s an end to a discussion because his opinions are actually facts - in his head anyway. He commanded me to start a thread on Wednesday

Interesting take TOBW, and a little ironic given the topic being discussed there, which was a fact vs an opinion.

Have a nice day. (Thats not a commandment either, merely a wish)

[JamesWales]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Why is the past relevant at all? Right now, is somebody able to live off minimum wage no matter where they live in the UK.

My guess is that a single male on minimum wage living in my area would be completely ****ed.

Is that good? Is it worth performing mental and statistical gymnastics every night on a Cardiff message board to stick up for that situation?

It's relevent because someone on here said all the lowest paid are worse off in the last 10 years in terms of wages v inflation, and that isn't true in terms of the minimum wage. Surely, facts matter?

[Rjk]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

It's relevent because someone on here said all the lowest paid are worse off in the last 10 years in terms of wages v inflation, and that isn't true in terms of the minimum wage. Surely, facts matter?

It could very easily be true, as the facts you have quoted don't tell the whole story.

[JamesWales]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

It could very easily be true, as the facts you have quoted don't tell the whole story.

No they don't, but saying 'none of the lowest paid' are better off after inflation is wrong. I don't see the issue in providing data to challenge it. I'm the first to admit there is a great wealth of statistics to look at, but if you are supportive of the minimum wage, then presumably you view it as a good thing that it has risen at twice the rate of inflation in the last 10 years, no?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Here you go.

Well, sorry to bring some facts to the table, but the minimum wage was £6.19 in 2012. It's £9.50 now. Thats an increase of 53%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation..._Wage_Act_1998

We can add a little from the last few months, but Inflation from 2012 to 2021 was 25%.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/mone...ion-calculator

No one disputes the global financial crisis, then a pandemic then a war in Europe don't impact on things. They do. It's been fkn tough, but the solution isn't to give everyone 10% more money. You may want to support the union on ideological ground but you know that in your heart it isn't the answer for the country as a whole.

Work is a ladder, most people have to start at the bottom, if it's £9.50 per hour or £10.00 you shouldn't matter, you should be thinking it's the bottom step, what can I do to earn more, not facking tories give me a 20% rise, whats happened to ambition?

[Talksport]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

No they don't, but saying 'none of the lowest paid' are better off after inflation is wrong. I don't see the issue in providing data to challenge it. I'm the first to admit there is a great wealth of statistics to look at, but if you are supportive of the minimum wage, then presumably you view it as a good thing that it has risen at twice the rate of inflation in the last 10 years, no?

JW, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately the vast majority of posters on here are leftist, anti Tory, deluded brainwashed Labour voters. Hence we all always have a Labour Govt in Wales..... Now that really is a worry!

[Hilts]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

JW, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately the vast majority of posters on here are leftist, anti Tory, deluded brainwashed Labour voters. Hence we all always have a Labour Govt in Wales..... Now that really is a worry!

And the other side there are right wing deluded brainwashed Tory supporters and why we have a Tory Govt. 😂😂😂

[Hilts]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Work is a ladder, most people have to start at the bottom, if it's £9.50 per hour or £10.00 you shouldn't matter, you should be thinking it's the bottom step, what can I do to earn more, not facking tories give me a 20% rise, whats happened to ambition?

Just give pay increases based on inflation

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

JW, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately the vast majority of posters on here are leftist, anti Tory, deluded brainwashed Labour voters. Hence we all always have a Labour Govt in Wales..... Now that really is a worry!

We've never had it so good look we are top of the table we have the most!

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/more-patients-languishing-pain-nhs-24301231

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Just give pay increases based on inflation

In a ideal World, the problem is it would add to inflation and drag the problem on longer, we need the country to dig deep and grind through the next two years, we've had to do it before and we will have to do it at certain times in the future.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

All Drakeford should be concentrating on is this, it's peoples lives, forget speed gimmicks, free prescrptions, longest covid restrictions in the World and all the party politics, get these numbers down, do whatever it takes!

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/more-patients-languishing-pain-nhs-24301231

NHS Wales waiting times: Two years growth and new record

Waiting times for hospital treatment in Wales have again reached record levels, latest monthly figures show.

They reveal two years of solid growth since the Covid pandemic began.

But the longest waits - those of more than two years - are starting to go down, although 68,000 are still waiting that long.

The figures for April show more than 707,000 patients were waiting for hospital treatment, although the rate of increase has slowed.

Emergency waiting times nearly worst ever
More cash wanted to help older people manage pain
Wales' top doctor not ruling out future lockdowns
'I spent four nights in A&E waiting for a bed'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61908285

[Rjk]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

All Drakeford should be concentrating on is this, it's peoples lives, forget speed gimmicks, free prescrptions, longest covid restrictions in the World and all the party politics, get these numbers down, do whatever it takes!

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/more-patients-languishing-pain-nhs-24301231

NHS Wales waiting times: Two years growth and new record

Waiting times for hospital treatment in Wales have again reached record levels, latest monthly figures show.

They reveal two years of solid growth since the Covid pandemic began.

But the longest waits - those of more than two years - are starting to go down, although 68,000 are still waiting that long.

The figures for April show more than 707,000 patients were waiting for hospital treatment, although the rate of increase has slowed.

Emergency waiting times nearly worst ever
More cash wanted to help older people manage pain
Wales' top doctor not ruling out future lockdowns
'I spent four nights in A&E waiting for a bed'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61908285

What does this have to do with a thread about Mick Lynch?

[Doucas]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

In a ideal World, the problem is it would add to inflation and drag the problem on longer, we need the country to dig deep and grind through the next two years, we've had to do it before and we will have to do it at certain times in the future.

More billionaires than ever richer than ever, but it's the poor who had to dig deep, right.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Work is a ladder, most people have to start at the bottom, if it's £9.50 per hour or £10.00 you shouldn't matter, you should be thinking it's the bottom step, what can I do to earn more, not facking tories give me a 20% rise, whats happened to ambition?

Erm no. If 9.50 per hours means you are not able to afford basic living costs then you are happily condemning a shit load of people to poverty.

The aim of the minimum wage should be to ensure basic living costs can be covered by somebody in full time employment, not some Dickensian tool to motivate the lazy.