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****ing hell man you’re a lost cause
that's not an argument ??
Ill summarise
You cant blame anyone for a global recession as its global and unpredictable
You can judge how governments manage it i.e. the financial crisis and Gordon Brown and the Tories after that .
The current crisis is way too unpredictable to judge anyone plans do you have a view to fix ?
Does anyone have the answers at this stage ??
W area still seeing the after shocks of Covid and a fuel crisis and a war ,what is the next step and plan . ??
The world basically stopped operating for two years, how do you plan for that , t how do you recover , how long will it ,do you know ?
I haven't seen any real ideas , plans to fix this in the long term from anyone have you ?
I actually think its beyond us to fix , or do you know someone who has the answer ?
It's straight out of the Trump/Johnson/Tory/Right Wing playbook. Personal responsibility? It's always someone else's fault. Johnson still won't take any even now, just listen to him today, so how do you expect any of his followers or disciples? All the recent people who have resigned are unfit to hold any office by association ever again yet they'll all be back. I haven't eaten today. I don't think I could keep it down.
I’m not saying the world isn’t in a bit of a state and it’s easy to fix. Im saying we made it worse for ourselves by handicapping our economy all for Cameron to save a few seats from ukip.
Which part of labours reaction to the recession did you particularly think was bad? Which part of the tories reaction to this one has been good?
Was the lying and cheating of the leave campaign the morally right thing to do? Was tricking the middle and working classes into voting for something that wouldn’t benefit them at all the morally right thing to do?
Can you give me a morally right benefit of brexit?
Can you tell me what happened to the moral decision to build all those hospitals with the money we were told would be saved. It said it on the side of that bus if your memory is a bit foggy.
What about being in a free market while being in a position to change the democratic deficit.
What democratic deficits made you vote leave?
What benefits do we now have thanks to being out of this organisation which were caused by the democratic deficit?
2 simple questions.
Both sides bent the truth, remain more so. Like when Cameron conjured up images of war in Europe lol. Scaremongering lies.
Or Obama tried to scare the British electorate by saying we'd be "at the back of the queue" for a trade deal. More lies.
You're on the side of Goldman Sach's and JP Morgan who were rabid remainers because it favours big business.
You're not much a fan of democracy are you? Didn't want the vote. Still contesting the result 3 years later.
We are at the back of a queue in a trade deal and there is a war in Europe
Bent the truth be ****ed, leave flat out lied openly.
I’m on the side of remaining because it was good for the people of this country and it was good for our economy while allowing our country to affect the policy of the EU while having a lot more autonomy than most other countries in the group.
I didn’t want the vote because I knew why the billionaires wanted it and how they’d get what they wanted. You’re on the side of the oligarchs and the money launderers obviously.
What benefits of leaving have there been?
Two simple answers.
The EU is very protectionist. The UK are more free market orientated than the protectionist EU.
The democratic deficit is of lack of accessibility to the ordinary citizen, or lack of representation of the ordinary citizen, and lack of accountability of European Union institutions
This is wales bales isn’t it? glad I didn’t vote the same way as someone with hitler in their username.
Give me an example of where we are more free market orientated and why it’s good for the normal citizen. How does this work when we are making concessions to get other trade deals?
I agree there is a lack of representation but that’s the same in our government too. I’ve never said the EU was perfect but we were 100% better off being in than out.
You could argue that the Ukraine conflict was, in part, caused by the EU ever expanding eastwards. Not respecting Russian interests and backing them into a corner risking nuclear war in the process.
We have democratic system and leave won. If you don't like democracy come out and say...I'm beginning to question it myself but not because of Brexit.