Folks with heart / blood pressure warnings

[life on mars]

Be careful out there;

https://newsroom.heart.org/news/5-ways-to-keep-your-heart-safe-in-extreme-heat

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Be careful out there;

https://newsroom.heart.org/news/5-wa...n-extreme-heat

Just off to check my urine colour.

[dml1954]

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Be careful out there;

https://newsroom.heart.org/news/5-wa...n-extreme-heat

How much do they pay these ‘experts’ to come up with stuff like this. My old nan could have told everyone all this for nothing.

[Dorcus]

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How much do they pay these ‘experts’ to come up with stuff like this. My old nan could have told everyone all this for nothing.

Was she a miserable old git like you too?

[delmbox]

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How much do they pay these ‘experts’ to come up with stuff like this. My old nan could have told everyone all this for nothing.

You think that all Donald M. Lloyd-Jones, M.D., Sc.M., FAHA, the American Heart Association’s new volunteer president and chair of preventive medicine at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago does for his wage is come up with these 5 points?

It's that type of idiotic thinking that means that he's an M.D., Sc.M., FAHA, the American Heart Association’s new volunteer president and chair of preventive medicine at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago on $150,000 a year and you do whatever it is you do

[lisvaneblue]

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You think that all Donald M. Lloyd-Jones, M.D., Sc.M., FAHA, the American Heart Association’s new volunteer president and chair of preventive medicine at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago does for his wage is come up with these 5 points?

It's that type of idiotic thinking that means that he's an M.D., Sc.M., FAHA, the American Heart Association’s new volunteer president and chair of preventive medicine at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago on $150,000 a year and you do whatever it is you do

For starters I like Dr Donald M Lloyd Jones name...strong suggestion that he is from Welsh family. Second, he drew up these guidelines for people over 50 or with a heart problem. Third there is nothing new here, and my nan could have come up with the same 5 rules

1. Avoid outdoors at peak sun times. 2. Wear light clothes. 3. Drink plenty of fluids. 4. take regular breaks in the shade.
5. Keep taking your cardiac medicines if you have a heart problem.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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How much do they pay these ‘experts’ to come up with stuff like this. My old nan could have told everyone all this for nothing.

So you reckon everyone would remember these points and it isn't worth sharing and remind others?

[delmbox]

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For starters I like Dr Donald M Lloyd Jones name...strong suggestion that he is from Welsh family. Second, he drew up these guidelines for people over 50 or with a heart problem. Third there is nothing new here, and my nan could have come up with the same 5 rules

1. Avoid outdoors at peak sun times. 2. Wear light clothes. 3. Drink plenty of fluids. 4. take regular breaks in the shade.
5. Keep taking your cardiac medicines if you have a heart problem.

Oh I'm sure she could, I'm sure she couldn't do 90% of the stuff he does for his wage though

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Oh I'm sure she could, I'm sure she couldn't do 90% of the stuff he does for his wage though

A while ago Delm there was another climate change thread which got a bit heated(!) and I mentioned, if I had my time over again, I wouldn't have bothered devoting decades of my life to Pharma/medicine/healthcare, getting a PhD, developing drugs that have saved lives and continual learning. I'm not alone in this way of thinking. A friend and GP has just recently packed it all in as have many others. We've lost some top consultants in Wales since 2016. It's not about the money, but the lack of appreciation of the years of sacrifice and study it takes only to end up being f*cked over by the very people you're trying to help is that last straw for many scientists these days which is why, here in the West, there'll be/is a massive shortage of essential healthcare providers and innovators.

When I read H.G. Wells 'The Time Machine' as a kid, and again more recently, I was horrified at the prospect of a future which included the Eloi, it scared the bejesus out of me. I can honestly say, that some of the stuff I read on here and the conspiratorial bollux is much more scary.

[Brizzlebluebirds]

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Just off to check my urine colour.

You're taking the piss now

[lisvaneblue]

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A while ago Delm there was another climate change thread which got a bit heated(!) and I mentioned, if I had my time over again, I wouldn't have bothered devoting decades of my life to Pharma/medicine/healthcare, getting a PhD, developing drugs that have saved lives and continual learning. I'm not alone in this way of thinking. A friend and GP has just recently packed it all in as have many others. We've lost some top consultants in Wales since 2016. It's not about the money, but the lack of appreciation of the years of sacrifice and study it takes only to end up being f*cked over by the very people you're trying to help is that last straw for many scientists these days which is why, here in the West, there'll be/is a massive shortage of essential healthcare providers and innovators.

When I read H.G. Wells 'The Time Machine' as a kid, and again more recently, I was horrified at the prospect of a future which included the Eloi, it scared the bejesus out of me. I can honestly say, that some of the stuff I read on here and the conspiratorial bollux is much more scary.

I appreciate your comments but. not sure the analysis is spot on. I like you spent my life in Pharma industry, laterly heading up the commercial side of the UK arm of a global business. Like you I got frustrated with the lack of appreciation, and Pharma bad press, but more than anything I found that with the NHS in particular 'inertia' seems to be build into the fabric of the organisation. And this inertia seemed to quash innovation, organisation, willingness to change. And the whole thing seems to rub off onto patients' attitude to medical care. Add to this the nanny state overbearing role of governments running our day to day lives and it's a recipe for disaster.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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I appreciate your comments but. not sure the analysis is spot on. I like you spent my life in Pharma industry, laterly heading up the commercial side of the UK arm of a global business. Like you I got frustrated with the lack of appreciation, and Pharma bad press, but more than anything I found that with the NHS in particular 'inertia' seems to be build into the fabric of the organisation. And this inertia seemed to quash innovation, organisation, willingness to change. And the whole thing seems to rub off onto patients' attitude to medical care. Add to this the nanny state overbearing role of governments running our day to day lives and it's a recipe for disaster.

There's a lot I agree with here and it was going so well until you used the term 'nanny state'. It just feels a bit too Sun/Mail tabloidy. I worked for the NHS in Pathology before moving into pharmacology and then development. I'd have never left the NHS if they'd paid a fair wage. It wasn't. It didn't even need to be on identical terms to the private sector it just needed to be fair. I'm saying the NHS but I really mean, my government/country.

What I object to is people who don't train and study and become experts in their field, p*issing on those who do/have. It's on this board and the internet daily. Our own politicians do it. The media does it. It made me physically sick when we had the clapping of NHS workers during the pandemic. I've said before, I keep the video of Tory MPs cheering 'not giving nurses a payrise' during a vote in parliament on my phone. I'd have it as a ringtone. I'd play daily on here if I could. It's a constant reminder of the hypocrisy.

There's under-appreciated then there's being taken for granted. Well, try and get appointments or the kind of care we had pre-Brexit/pandemic.

I think my analysis is spot on Matt. It's our politics that aren't a match. I'm not angry with you mate, but I am an angry f*cker these days and have had a guts full of it all. You just caught me on a hot day and p*ssed off mate. :ayatollah:

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I appreciate your comments but. not sure the analysis is spot on. I like you spent my life in Pharma industry, laterly heading up the commercial side of the UK arm of a global business. Like you I got frustrated with the lack of appreciation, and Pharma bad press, but more than anything I found that with the NHS in particular 'inertia' seems to be build into the fabric of the organisation. And this inertia seemed to quash innovation, organisation, willingness to change. And the whole thing seems to rub off onto patients' attitude to medical care. Add to this the nanny state overbearing role of governments running our day to day lives and it's a recipe for disaster.

That reads like a libertarian approach to the NHS

I think it's demand that will be it's demise , not what it offers in terms of service which is very good on the whole

You can privatise health care in the UK and it would still struggle once it got to tipping point , which is where it is now

Unless we stop people having children this is the way it is

[Alan Lung]

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How do you know if you have a heart problem?

[Tuerto]

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For starters I like Dr Donald M Lloyd Jones name...strong suggestion that he is from Welsh family. Second, he drew up these guidelines for people over 50 or with a heart problem. Third there is nothing new here, and my nan could have come up with the same 5 rules

1. Avoid outdoors at peak sun times. 2. Wear light clothes. 3. Drink plenty of fluids. 4. take regular breaks in the shade.
5. Keep taking your cardiac medicines if you have a heart problem.

Your nan knows the answers because people like Donny J worked them out for her.