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You're correct. I would have been giving them free tickets because they are locals and representative of the demographic within a 2-3 mile radius of the stadium. I don't want anyone to be pilloried for asking a question.Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
The justification for giving out tickets to people of a different race could be argued though on the grounds of a lack of representation. Or, to turn the question on its head, why is our fan base predominantly white male in a local area that isn't?
Just to add, when we walk back from a match, we get loads of people asking 'how did we do?' from different ethnicities and genders. It's strange that they identify the club as 'their's' but don't go. I'd like to have that dialogue with local people more but it has to be done right and really needs the club to do this with well-trained engagement officers. I'd like to see the club appoint local community ambassadors who can do this.
100% agree it should become engrained in our psyche
Genuine, serious question. What is Swansea's local demographic these days considering they play at The Liberty?
I don't think that is true at all. And it comes with much less political baggage.
Kick it Out was established in 1993, it’s not really worked has it.
You don't think the issue of racism in society or football is not better now than in 30 years ago?
Isn't it a myth that Vikings never really wore such helmets?
Not to an extent that the founders of Kick it Out would be satisfied with. Far from it.
Kick it out is box ticking on a huge scale
Taking the knee is direct
And it pisses off and shuts up a lot of racists
They are not comparable
The goals are always moved though aren't they - I think the change in opinions in the country in 30 years is extraordinary. My personal opinion is that organisations like BLM actually risk reversing a generally more colour blind, racially harmonious society.
Certainly seems to be happening in the US - not all BLM related of course, but they contribute.
These guys are worth a follow on twitter IMO - A much more progressive way forward
https://twitter.com/DontDivideUsNow
Which false positions in life are adverts and roles in TV portraying black people in?
So you're saying they did wear them...?
I don't like being told what to do and I don't like telling other people what to do. If players want to do it they are welcome to do so and no-one should discourage them from doing so. On the other hand, those who don't wish to partake shouldn't be pilloried or pressured. Simples.
19th century trope! The Danes did not have horns on their helmets.
Travellers
That's disappointing.
Henry VIII did though!
Henry VIII horned helmet.jpg
A bit more content to the Swansea decision - although it still looks like abandoning what they call a 'token gesture' for.... nothing!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...ist-abuse.html
So much of this is related to social media isn't it. I think we all know that the veil of anonymity allows people to behave in ways they never normally would.
Unsure what the answer is on that. I don't think people should have to show ID etc, but I'm unsure what could eradicate it entirely. Twitter is the real cesspit.
I do sometimes wonder whether it's better to not give it the fuel it craves and to treat it as we would graffiti on a toilet door?
From the Mail link the above poster has kindly sourced I do like Sir Les's view :
""QPR made the decision to do so in September 2020, with director of football Les Ferdinand saying at the time that the gesture was 'little more than good PR'.""
As the article states and as my views football authorities to feck all and the gesture gets them off the hook... pathetic..
God bless the Mail
I completely agree with you on the club's need to engage more with the myriad communities in Cardiff and South Wales (weren't we toward the bottom of some kind of fan engagement survey?). The mural fiasco and the whole "reverse racism" argument put forward by the club was absolutely shameful
That being said I'm not entirely sure on that point in bold, I'm not entirely sure that's the case. The stadium's in Canton and whilst Grangetown is incredibly diverse (at a guess I'd say its the most diverse area in Cardiff?) you turn the other way and go into Fairwater, Ely, Caerau etc it's a very different story. Not that this should let the club off the hook in terms of general engagement and I agree that the fanbase isn't fully representative of Cardiff, but Grangetown isn't really representative of the rest of Cardiff either
Apparently, Scandinavian artists used poetic license in the 1800s. Coincidentally, I've been reading quite a bit about Vikings in Britain over the last year or so and that's completely changed my view from the mythical versions. Not sure how any of this helps eradicate racism in football but Odin works in mysterious ways.
You're right about Grangetown. I guess it just feels so close because it's only about a 30-40 minute walk to the stadium for me. I mentioned to someone yesterday that Grangetown reminds me of living in London in many respects. Maybe that last question was badly phrased, but for me, it's quite a culture shock to suddenly be surrounded by a lack of diversity when I get there (except on the pitch of course).
The other weird part for me is I never think of the stadium as being in Canton even though it is. I technically lived in The Bay for almost a decade when I came back from London but so close to Bute Street that it, too, felt diverse and we walked to the stadium via Clare Road and then through Grangetown. Even in Grangetown, we're close to Riverside and Taff Embankment so it all feels lumped together.
I'd always seen Canton as being fairly diverse but maybe I'm wrong about that?
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