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Well, the Port of Dover said they welcomed 45,000 cars on the weekend just goneOriginally Posted by Hilts
https://www.doverport.co.uk/about/ne...-resour/13692/
The guardian reported that 33,000 used the port the week before (when there were horrendous queues)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...vel-disruption
Euronews reported 30,000 used it the week before.
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022...k-travel-chaos
So if anything, it seems the port was busier on the weekend just gone But thankfully we rejoined the EU last wednesday, so all the problems were sorted. Phew!
I know that a dwindling number of the hardcore set like to share memes such as the above on twitter, but it really is no response to the fact based post I posted above. The reality is that you seemed to want to incorrectly blame something, not the other way round..
I'll take it as a compliment
In all seriousness, what does this even mean? Powerful?
Why would a German passport be more powerful than a French? Why is a Japanese one more powerful than any EU nations one? Where's the US? Those passports carry some weight, especially when I'm watching films and someone gets into difficulty abroad..
Facts like 1 second passport checks?I know that a dwindling number of the hardcore set like to share memes such as the above on twitter, but it really is no response to the fact based post I posted above. The reality is that you seemed to want to incorrectly blame something, not the other way round..
I'll take it as a compliment
Jonny boy...Facts like 1 second passport checks?
Many people's knee-jerk response was to bLaMe BrExIT. Others said it was related to staffing issues on the French side. But we are still outside the EU, and the horrendous queues were not repeated, which suggests that the first theory was perhaps not correct.
I'll grant you though, your version of bingo is more fun, as at least there are a few options. The alternative version just has two words on it "Brexit" and "Tories". At least City won on the weekend, or else you'd be blaming that on Brexit too.
it refers to the number of countries you can travel to without needing a visa I think .
From a story in the Telegraph
Oh, another meme
You could, of course, have referred to the contraction in manufacturing in the Eurozone yesterday versus the continued growth (albeit slowing) in the UK. That would have been a like for like comparison of near real time data between the UK and the Eurozone
Lemme guess...the echo chamber insulation kept those facts out? Manufacturing in contraction in the Eurozone?! Reach for an anti-brexit meme Tarquin!
https://tradingeconomics.com/euro-ar...ufacturing-pmi
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...ufacturing-pmi
Oh, another meme
You could, of course, have referred to the contraction in manufacturing in the Eurozone yesterday versus the continued growth (albeit slowing) in the UK. That would have been a like for like comparison of near real time data between the UK and the Eurozone
Lemme guess...the echo chamber insulation kept those facts out? Manufacturing in contraction in the Eurozone?! Reach for an anti-brexit meme Tarquin!
https://tradingeconomics.com/euro-ar...ufacturing-pmi
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...ufacturing-pmi
Facts like 1 second passport checks?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-dover-delays
'Jacob Rees-Mogg: I was wrong to say Brexit would not cause Dover delays'.
It's the most amount of countries you can get into without a Visa, a clear loss since Brexit is it not?
This is breathtaking:
JRM: "The point I was making was that the only delays would be caused by the French if they decided not to allow British people to pass through freely. They have decided to do that".
He obviously wanted an end to free movement, except of course for us Brits. Really sums up the attitude of him and the other Brexiters in a nutshell.
Anyway, at least he has got there eventually with his admission over the delays. Only James left now
Yes, although there are numerous definitions of the word 'powerful'. Pretty certain a US passport is pretty powerful in certain circumstances and having a British passport is probably more powerful than a Singaporean one in certain situations abroad. As mentioned below, this is the reference to power in terms of visa free travel, which is useful more than powerful, but there we go. That's why i was asking
https://www.onlinevisa.com/news/worl...%202nd%20place.
Still, it looks like the EU passports have visa free access to between 182 and 190 countries. Great.
The UK has visa free access to 187, so is more POWERFUL than a Belgian by the looks of it. POWER!!
The loss of the freedom to automatically live wherever you want in the EU is a loss of Brexit. I'm not sure the above is that dramatic. I wonder what the single country the Dutch can have visa free travel to that we can't is for example?
Powerful, in the context of passports, also means things like consular support in case of emergencies as well as visa-free travel.Yes, although there are numerous definitions of the word 'powerful'. Pretty certain a US passport is pretty powerful in certain circumstances and having a British passport is probably more powerful than a Singaporean one in certain situations abroad. As mentioned below, this is the reference to power in terms of visa free travel, which is useful more than powerful, but there we go. That's why i was asking
https://www.onlinevisa.com/news/worl...%202nd%20place.
Still, it looks like the EU passports have visa free access to between 182 and 190 countries. Great.
The UK has visa free access to 187, so is more POWERFUL than a Belgian by the looks of it. POWER!!
The loss of the freedom to automatically live wherever you want in the EU is a loss of Brexit. I'm not sure the above is that dramatic. I wonder what the single country the Dutch can have visa free travel to that we can't is for example?
Yeah that's what I think too. Essentially a passport for a powerful country is always a powerful passport. I think I would rather be stuck in a tricky situation abroad with an American passport over one from Luxembourg or Singapore.
I agree though, the number of Visa free countries it allowed access to is also part of the mix however, and at 187 for the UK, versus a near identical average for the EU and only six below Japan at 193, I think we can all be reasonably satisfied. Would be interesting to know what those countries are mind.
Probably bigger issues for most of us to worry about.
Well it depends where. If you're in China or Brazil, the Singapore passport is better than an American one. That's what its counting, the number of countries where it's better.
I would have thought this was your kind of thing. Analysis and data with a clear and easy conclusion, rather than just gut feeling.
It is my kind of thing! And I approve of the liberal use of flags here..
https://www.onlinevisa.com/news/worl...%202nd%20place.
I'm just not sure that powerful is the best wording when you are assessing one particular element of a passport - a very important one, but there are other roles a passport serves too, which is why I asked whether it considered those.
Anyway, it is interesting!
It reminds me of the Alamo.This is breathtaking:
JRM: "The point I was making was that the only delays would be caused by the French if they decided not to allow British people to pass through freely. They have decided to do that".
He obviously wanted an end to free movement, except of course for us Brits. Really sums up the attitude of him and the other Brexiters in a nutshell.
Anyway, at least he has got there eventually with his admission over the delays. Only James left now
I guess it's not the actual numbers that are concerning at this stage, more the trend if that continues.
we were able to visit more countries than any other nation without a visa, now we are 13th on that list.
what will be the situation in 10 years?
Here we go!This is breathtaking:
JRM: "The point I was making was that the only delays would be caused by the French if they decided not to allow British people to pass through freely. They have decided to do that".
He obviously wanted an end to free movement, except of course for us Brits. Really sums up the attitude of him and the other Brexiters in a nutshell.
Anyway, at least he has got there eventually with his admission over the delays. Only James left now
"Freedom of movement" is something of a colloquialism. It didn't mean there were never checks anywhere. Some countries are outside of Schengen, so there was. You always needed your passport to fly abroad etc and it was always checked. Now it is stamped, but it needn't be. Thats a choice (some) EU countries have made I believe. They don't have to. Mines been stamped twice. It took no longer at all. A second at most.
Even if all the queues were caused by Brexit (they weren't) as opposed to anything else, they didn't occur on the second weekend of the first full summer holiday post covid and leaving the EU, which rather suggests that if people put their minds to it, then whatever problems are created can be solved within a week anyway.
It's hardly the most compelling reason to have remained in the EU is it.
Statistically speaking, thats a fair point, although I think we all know in practice that it's unlikely to fall at that same rate. As we can see below, the three most 'powerful' passports in the world are non-EU ones. The power of different EU nations varies considerably and is about on a par with the UK, which is more 'powerful' than several EU countries, including Belgium.
Personally I suspect the level will stay the same, dependent upon diplomatic relations more than anything
https://www.onlinevisa.com/news/worl...%202nd%20place
Well this is the name and methodology used, so I'm not sure what we can do about it
Well flying out of Bristol Saturday morning.
Interesting to see how it all compares to pre - Brexit.
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