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For a sixth time, what's the exact amount of wealth someone can have before they can talk about inequality?
I've never once said it was too hard for me to get on the market, ive said its much harder for younger people to get on the market which is 100% true and once they are it's more expensive yet somehow you still try and deny.
Yeah older people have had it easier, you haven't had the wage stagnation that we've had, you've had cheaper housing, free education and your pensions are better. You won't have to deal with the catastrophic consequences of climate change. But so many of you have your head in the sand and are clearly clueless of any modern issues unless you're spoon-fed it by Murdoch and Co.
I worked on the polls on Brexit day. Something really odd was happening you could sense it. People who you could tell were unused to voting were coming in, dragging older relatives with them as if their lives depended on it - all while insisting on using a pen (yes they had been totally brainwashed). All thinking they were voting against the ‘establishment’ whilst only being fooled by them. We’ve sold our young people down the river, let’s hope one day they’ll have the sense to put it right.
I've just checked on Rightmove the sale price [March 2022] of my 1st house. I bought it in 1976 for £18,000. It sold for £183,000. Pretty much average for those around it, too. That's a 10 fold increase. The average wage in 1976 was £3,750. The average salary in the UK in 2022 is £31,500. That equats to 8.4 times increase. Now imagine a mortgage today with 10-11% interest rates, because that's what we were paying - bank rate was close to 9%.
You can convince yourself that the world's against you - and listening to the doomongers doesn't help, but believe me, it's far, far, easier to buy a house now than it ever was..
The tory scum should drop all this free choice bollocks and tell the country that going on holiday and maxing out the credit card for the government and individuals has got to stop for 18 months . They need to fund the basics but all this silly talk about cutting taxes to keep the economy is just bullshit . Its not going to work . Sunaks ideas are a bit more realistic but he's also off his head .
Defence spending will carry on each makes me laugh . We have this nuclear weapons costing billions ......what have they in Europe recently , except cost loads of money . Deterrent my arse .
Cut that away for a start .
I spent 8 years driving all over Europe. Every few miles there were signs saying the development was supported with finance from the ERDF. So Blaenau Gwent, Merthyr et al were not the only beneficiaries of European money. However, the money was not European money; it was partly ours. The system worked like this: The Government contributed into the ERDF each year but received far less back from the EU for ERDF projects. Decisions on allocations were made by the EU in consultation with Member States.
All I know is that the roads and rail links in Europe are far better than those in the UK. It seemed to me that we were getting short changed and when I went to one of the rail tunnel openings (in Benicassim on the main rail link between Valencia and Barcelona) the Mayor welcomed those of us from the UK and jokingly thanked us for our generous contribution..
But £18,000 wasn't the average house price in 1976, it was about £11,500. So by your own figures that's 4x the average wage.
You say the average wage is £31,500 which is probably about right (although median wage would be better) but the average house price in the UK is now £290,000 which is about 9-10x that figure. Most mortgage providers will only loan up to 4x your salary now, are you starting to see the gigantic problem yet?
We have a generation of older people who despite no matter how many facts you're shown you will refuse to see how bad things are at the moment. Which is why things keep getting worse because you've got your heads in the sand and keep voting for this.
This shouldn't even need to be a discussion, it's like asking if the sky is blue.
And before I hear the 'you're just jealous' I am a homeowner.
Sources:
https://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/in...nal-inflation/
https://www.theguardian.com/business...starts-to-cool
We have been using quantitave easing and spending for a long time , it's created false demand . So thats going to have to stop or inflation becomes a runaway train . Even more so given the energy situation .
This government has failed to protect this country from a shitstorm and now its here its too late .
Truss talking about cutting tax to stimulate the economy is bollocks , she's a bullshitter just wanting the top job and she knows the blue rinse brigade and all the saps will elect her if she talks about their money .
It's 18 months at least of digging deep and as usual it's those at the bottom and middle who will get it .
It makes me laugh that the Tories play the game of financial management 🤣
This lot are the last people you want to be stuck in a toilet with .
Good for you. A 0.5% hike isn't going to hurt you - we were getting hikes of 2 and 3%.
The 2 sites you linked, well. The Guardian is the portent of doom and despair, and the other one has been predicting the crash of house prices for 20 odd years. We ain't all going to burn, starve, freeze. Just enjoy life, and stop reading all the depressing sh*t..
"average". It's a false way of calculating. The enormous cost of housing in London and other 'hot spots' has skewed those figures. You have to take like for like. A 3 bed semi in, say Danescourt now, and in 1976. This isn't the example I referred to previously, but I reckon there's been no more than a ten fold increase. Take a house in London area and they've probably gone up 20 fold. There are large areas of housing in the Valleys that probably haven't gone up more than 5 fold.
No jon, Japan has very low immigration and has a higher standard of living than us. We've always had a relatively high stadard of living, even before mass immigration. It's down to capitalism. Anyway, higher immigration means the "lower trust" a society reports. So if you want to live in a low trust society with low social cohesion you crack on. Sounds like hell to me.
Some people are like a 1970's telly you must keep smacking them before they see the picture!
And you said you’re not a liar you’re a clueless liar, read your own posts they are all dumb!
You've taken one sentence out of context I went on to say interest rates are another factor in house affordability in 1988 when I bought my first house interest rates were 9.8% and went up to 15.4%, by 1990, house prices went down a lot by the way, so us oldies had what’s called negative equity, things were tough, much harder than my parents had it, but I wasn’t on a Cardiff city club message board or equivalent crying about it.
Last year the rate I had on one property was 0.29% or 0.19% over the base rate (an old Woolwich now Barclays discounted rate from 2006).
So on a £100K mortgage in 1990 the interest payment alone was £15,400 per year, last year it was £290 per year.
Now I know house prices were less in 1990 but that’s to demonstrate to you how interest rates are the main factor in property ownership affordability.
Many people who are older than you have told you this many times on this thread alone, but you refuse to believe people who have actual life experience and are not getting their information from socialist websites.