FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 3 PORTSMOUTH. Match thread

[Michael Morris]

Tuesday August 9th, ko 7:45pm
Carabao Cup 1st round.

Match Officials:

Referee: Lee Swabey
Assistant Referee: Christopher Husband
Assistant Referee: Thomas Harty
Fourth Official: Mark Derrien

[Canton Kev]

I hope we put out a strong team. Based on the improvements under Morison last season and the (seemingly) good eye for signings he’s got, I’m not at all concerned about relegation this season. I think we’ll be comfortably mid table.

Might as well try go far in the cup and get a few paydays.

[ccfcwelshlad]

I hope we put out a strong team. Based on the improvements under Morison last season and the (seemingly) good eye for signings he’s got, I’m not at all concerned about relegation this season. I think we’ll be comfortably mid table.

Might as well try go far in the cup and get a few paydays.

I'd expect a full change with something like

Alnwick
Vontae McGuinness Denham Bagan
King Sang Ralls
Tanner Etete Philogene

Hopefully Colwill and Davies can have some game time too, I noticed them both training with the team in a video last week so sounds positive.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I'd expect a full change with something like

Alnwick
Vontae McGuinness Denham Bagan
King Sang Ralls
Tanner Etete Philogene

Hopefully Colwill and Davies can have some game time too, I noticed them both training with the team in a video last week so sounds positive.

I would play most of those, we need to see what they can do and who can be added now to the first team, along with Etete next game.

[The Lone Gunman]

I'd expect a full change…..

You’re probably right, but I’ve never understood what a club like City stands to gain by fielding what is effectively a reserve team in a competition like this.

The manager’s unlikely to learn much by playing reserves alongside other reserves, and doing so obviously lessens the club’s chances of progressing in the competition. It seems to be standard practice now for most Championship teams, but I don’t see any benefits.

[Carl Dale's Mole]

I'd expect a full change with something like

Alnwick
Vontae McGuinness Denham Bagan
King Sang Ralls
Tanner Etete Philogene

Hopefully Colwill and Davies can have some game time too, I noticed them both training with the team in a video last week so sounds positive.

Glen Williams seems to think Davies is out until the end of the month.

[Colin'sReversibleHat]

I'd expect a full change with something like

Alnwick
Vontae McGuinness Denham Bagan
King Sang Ralls
Tanner Etete Philogene

Hopefully Colwill and Davies can have some game time too, I noticed them both training with the team in a video last week so sounds positive.

Pretty much exactly what I'd like to see, though I'd love to see Colwill get a decent amount of gametime in a false 9 role, so I'd maybe like to see him start over Etete, and get 55/60 mins under his belt leading the line, keeping Etete sharp for a start next Saturday v Brum.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Is it 5 subs in this too, does anybody know?

[Rjk]

Pretty much exactly what I'd like to see, though I'd love to see Colwill get a decent amount of gametime in a false 9 role, so I'd maybe like to see him start over Etete, and get 55/60 mins under his belt leading the line, keeping Etete sharp for a start next Saturday v Brum.

I'd like to see colwill as a 10 behind Etete if he's fit.

[NYCBlue]

I'd like to see a very similar team to Saturday's. Get them back out there and see if they can do better. We've been close to winning this competition before. We should be going for it.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

I'd expect a full change with something like

Alnwick
Vontae McGuinness Denham Bagan
King Sang Ralls
Tanner Etete Philogene

Hopefully Colwill and Davies can have some game time too, I noticed them both training with the team in a video last week so sounds positive.

I think you're very near the mark with that team.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Is it 5 subs in this too, does anybody know?

Been told by my son that it is.

[Canton Kev]

I'd like to see a very similar team to Saturday's. Get them back out there and see if they can do better. We've been close to winning this competition before. We should be going for it.

Forgetting the glory of winning, just making it through a few rounds nets the club some decent cash. Our trip to Anfield last season netted us somewhere in the region of £400k I believe I read. That was for a second round tie too, I'm not sure how much the reward money increases for each round you progress but I wouldn't be surprised if reaching round 4 gets us an extra £1m+

[splott parker]

Forgetting the glory of winning, just making it through a few rounds nets the club some decent cash. Our trip to Anfield last season netted us somewhere in the region of £400k I believe I read. That was for a second round tie too, I'm not sure how much the reward money increases for each round you progress but I wouldn't be surprised if reaching round 4 gets us an extra £1m+

It was a 4th round tie at Anfield last season.

[ccfcwelshlad]

Glen Williams seems to think Davies is out until the end of the month.

Ah maybe mate, might be similar for Colwill then. At least they're both out on the grass again.

[Canton Kev]

It was a 4th round tie at Anfield last season.

Ah I worded that poorly, It was a 4th round game but only the second game of our cup run. I meant winning 3 games and getting to a 4th game.

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

I read on WoL that Colwill is unlikely to be involved until the end of the month. Davies I read is a little closer but I would expect both to play a few U23 games first.

After Saturday's performance there's a real incentive for a few of those players to put forward a case for Birmingham. One of the good things about this squad is the level of competition for places, so it's a good chance for a couple of people to put their hands up.

Does anyone know if this game will be available to watch or stream anywhere, by the way?

[PhyllisStant]

You’re probably right, but I’ve never understood what a club like City stands to gain by fielding what is effectively a reserve team in a competition like this.

The manager’s unlikely to learn much by playing reserves alongside other reserves, and doing so obviously lessens the club’s chances of progressing in the competition. It seems to be standard practice now for most Championship teams, but I don’t see any benefits.

To be fair I think for the first time in a long time we capable of putting out 2 different teams - both competitive.

Arguably, the front three proposed tonight might be more effective that our 'first' choice.

[Michael Morris]

Match facts

• This is the first meeting between Cardiff and Portsmouth in any competition since August 2017, with the Bluebirds winning a first round League Cup tie 2-1.
• Portsmouth have alternated between being eliminated (3) and progressing (2) from their five League Cup ties against Cardiff, getting knocked out the last time they faced them in August 2017.
• Cardiff have lost five of their last six League Cup matches, with the exception being a 3-2 win against Sutton United at this stage last season.
• Portsmouth have been eliminated at this stage of the League Cup in four of the last six seasons, losing 2-1 at Championship side Millwall last season.

[Rjk]

To be fair I think for the first time in a long time we capable of putting out 2 different teams - both competitive.

Arguably, the front three proposed tonight might be more effective that our 'first' choice.

I think the same thing every season, then our second XI inevitably end up losing badly to a lower league team

[Colin'sReversibleHat]

[*]Cardiff have lost five of their last six League Cup matches, with the exception being a 3-2 win against Sutton United at this stage last season.

What a mewling stat that is

[bluesp]

Am I right in thinking it won't be available to watch on tv/ device anywhere?

[Carl Dale's Mole]

Am I right in thinking it won't be available to watch on tv/ device anywhere?

That's right. Audio only. Won't be any streams.

[bluesp]

That's right. Audio only. Won't be any streams.

Ok, thank you

[J R Hartley]

Pretty much exactly what I'd like to see, though I'd love to see Colwill get a decent amount of gametime in a false 9 role, so I'd maybe like to see him start over Etete, and get 55/60 mins under his belt leading the line, keeping Etete sharp for a start next Saturday v Brum.

False 9 is a formation very few teams in the PL could play let alone a championship side. People
have been watching too much Man City and Liverpool.