STEVE MORISON SACKED

[Hilts]

We're not the only team that pays them though are we.

We had to sign more players than all the other clubs because Vinny and the Chuckle Brothers wanted the wage bill reduced.

Thats not entirely true is it. Unless you are suggesting that high earners like Bacuna , Vaulks , Flint , Pack , Smithies should have been kept on.

We needed a clear out and the wage bill reduced.

Weve beaten Championship clubs to the signature of players as well.

I dont think we are paying peanuts.

I do think we are a shambles of a club the way we are run.

Ownership and board are clueless.

Sadly we can moan all we like but if nobody wants to buy Vincent Tan out theres feck all we can do about it.

[DubaiDai]

Not my job to do so obviously!
If I was the owner, he'd be gone, I don't think anyone can argue that we've largely been abysmal. If you invest millions into a club, you expect better. Simple as that really.

Tan has invested and wasted millions, but not with Morison.
He was told to strip the squad of high wage earners and out of contract players, then completely re build on free transfers.
He has done that and we are 15th after 10 games, playing better football than we have for many years.
Tell me what did you expect ?
A top 6 like many other deluded fans on here ?

[Hilts]

Tan has invested and wasted millions, but not with Morison.
He was told to strip the squad of high wage earners and out of contract players, then completely re build on free transfers.
He has done that and we are 15th after 10 games, playing better football than we have for many years.
Tell me what did you expect ?
A top 6 like many other deluded fans on here ?

If we were 15th after 10 games and playing better football than we have for many years then youd have a point.

But neither are correct.

[fugsyphil]

I'm not big on stats, but there's no arguing with that really!

But the people doing the stats might only be watching on the telly so that doesn't count

[Citizen's Nephew]

We have the 21st most shots in the league, the 24th most shots on target in the league, the 23rd most shots in the box, the 20th most shots in the 6 yard box, and the 4th most shots outside the box, because we don't create anything inside it.

Our attack under Morison was pitiful. We are one of the worst sides in the league going forwards and we create less than almost every side.

https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/25...ship-2022-2023

…..and….and…on top of all that we were really shit against Huddersfield! 😝
Top post mate! 🤙

[DubaiDai]

Well that's one opinion, but in reality football is unlike any other business, we saw managers in the Chsmpionship getting sacked only weeks after the season started.
The average tenure for a Championship manager is what, 18 months or so?
Everyone knows its bonkers, but and it's a big but
Everyone involved knows the score before getting involved.
Morison would have known this and his job, that he accepted would have had some guidelines

He didn't get rid of the dross, as in reality most of them were coming to the end of their lucarative contracts.

Therefore you could argue that he had a clean sheet to bring in his own players, and was backed accordingly
I don't think theres any such thing as a real free transfer now it's just about the player getting a signing on for rather than his old club getting the cash.

Knowing the limited timeframe that he had to operate in, he brought in players to do a job

I very much doubt that the guidelines he was given included the option of producing a team that couldn't score goals, or that had no bottle for a fight

We have become too easy to play against, its Morisons team and in a results driven business you either deliver or go, it's nothing more complicated than that

Looking at the results for 10 games, we have taken 11 points out of 30 on offer

That's a fact and it simply isn't good enough

It's a results driven business, rightly or wrongly and you don't have time or the luxury for projects

“Backed accordingly” with a budget of zero

[Citizen's Nephew]

“Backed accordingly” with a budget of zero

That’s about the only thing our board have got right because if he’d had 10M the football would still be the same as would the stats. It’s what happens when you let Neil Harris’s understudy manage Cardiff City.

[DubaiDai]

If we were 15th after 10 games and playing better football than we have for many years then youd have a point.

But neither are correct.

I stand corrected - 18th but I personally don’t think we have played better football under Harris or McCarthy

[Llandaff Blue]

“Backed accordingly” with a budget of zero

You think the free agents are on work experience? Sawyers was an established championship player, he wasn’t cheap. Rimo came here because Reading couldn’t match us. Then there’s 500k on a “project” when our striking options were Waters and Harris.

Tan’s biggest fault here was giving Morison the rebuilding job, he should have been gone after Swansea last season

[BlueArmy 86]

We have the 21st most shots in the league, the 24th most shots on target in the league, the 23rd most shots in the box, the 20th most shots in the 6 yard box, and the 4th most shots outside the box, because we don't create anything inside it.

Our attack under Morison was pitiful. We are one of the worst sides in the league going forwards and we create less than almost every side.

https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/25...ship-2022-2023

What’s this about then

https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1...IEm9nXXQ8jlLPQ

[Baloo]

Looking at the results for 10 games, we have taken 11 points out of 30 on offer

That's a fact and it simply isn't good enough

It's a results driven business, rightly or wrongly and you don't have time or the luxury for projects

We appointed McCarthy permanently based on his results after 10 games.

Just over 20 games later he was sacked.

If we accept this season was a restart it’s a small window to be so certain how things would have panned out.

[Citizen's Nephew]

What’s this about then

https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1...IEm9nXXQ8jlLPQ

Bollox, that's what. A whopping 7% reduction in long balls and since when does xGA figure in the league tables? Losing site of the most important goals for and goals against means disappearing down the rabbit hole.

[jeepster]

Bollox, that's what. A whopping 7% reduction in long balls and since when does xGA figure in the league tables? Losing site of the most important goals for and goals against means disappearing down the rabbit hole.

Spot on

[splott parker]

Bollox, that's what. A whopping 7% reduction in long balls and since when does xGA figure in the league tables? Losing site of the most important goals for and goals against means disappearing down the rabbit hole.

I can’t be arsed with all this shite jargon, it’s all coulda, shoulda, woulda. The only figures that matter and have always mattered in the history of football are the figures below the letters, P W D L F A Pts.

[Llandaff Blue]

What’s this about then

https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1...IEm9nXXQ8jlLPQ

That tweet doesn't disagree with what Pedro says, in fact the XG table shows how poor we are going forward and at creating chances

[Pedro de la Rosa]

What’s this about then

https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1...IEm9nXXQ8jlLPQ

xG is the biggest pile of cobblers to ever be seen. We don't shoot, we don't create chances, it is undeniable. We are dead last or nearly last in every shooting metric. Just because we've scored some tap ins it doesn't mean we create anything. We haven't scored in 6 of 11 games. It is not good enough.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

So early season it was said .....by plenty on here ......we looked a useful side and with a few additions could challenge ?

So , are all our players crap then ?

Over to the experts

[Tuerto]

So early season it was said .....by plenty on here ......we looked a useful side and with a few additions could challenge ?

So , are all our players crap then ?

Over to the experts

Most of them are pretty damn average. What do you think?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

So early season it was said .....by plenty on here ......we looked a useful side and with a few additions could challenge ?

So , are all our players crap then ?

Over to the experts

I think we've signed 6 good players: Alsopp, Collins, O'Dowda, Robinson, Kipre and Romeo.
The rest are either average, unproven or crap.

[Citizen's Nephew]

I think we've signed 6 good players: Alsopp, Collins, O'Dowda, Robinson, Kipre and Romeo.
The rest are either average, unproven or crap.

I'm wavering with my vote now because I think you've bottled it by not naming which ones are which!

[jeepster]

I think we've signed 6 good players: Alsopp, Collins, O'Dowda, Robinson, Kipre and Romeo.
The rest are either average, unproven or crap.

Collins was a massive loss.

[Rjk]

xG is the biggest pile of cobblers to ever be seen. We don't shoot, we don't create chances, it is undeniable. We are dead last or nearly last in every shooting metric. Just because we've scored some tap ins it doesn't mean we create anything. We haven't scored in 6 of 11 games. It is not good enough.

We have pretty low xG as well, it has its limitations but it can be a very useful metric. These numbers show we have really good xGA (goals against) and mid tableish xG (goals for), but they only consider from open play. We have to factor into that goals for and against from set pieces - where presumably in both measures we are really bad.

Perhaps we should be bringing in a specific set-piece coach as well as a new manager.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Most of them are pretty damn average. What do you think?

Experts I asked for mate

[Ninja]

I think we've signed 6 good players: Alsopp, Collins, O'Dowda, Robinson, Kipre and Romeo.
The rest are either average, unproven or crap.

Rino's been ok, and big things were expected from Adams before his injury.
Not sure why we re-signed Ojo mind, he was inconsistent first time round, although we are operating on a budget...

I don't think his signings have been too bad for the most part, I do think he's not plugged glaring holes though.
Centre-back and centre-forward were the two obvious positions that we desperately needed to strengthen after we bolstered the centre of midfield.
He just seemed to add more midfielders though...

Then of course, when we did add two forwards, we ended up with Etete and Robinson. The latter may come good but he's not the physical presence that Morison's system was crying out for. The former of course, a "project" that we could ill afford to spend money on.

To give Morison his dues, I think we largely did ok with a decent percentage of his signings, but he signed far too many players. We needed less quantity and more quality.
Very few managers can get away with bringing in so many new faces in a pre-season, it's always going to cause more chaos than is manageable.

He bit off more than he could chew.

[2b2bdoo]

I think we've signed 6 good players: Alsopp, Collins, O'Dowda, Robinson, Kipre and Romeo.
The rest are either average, unproven or crap.

We think the Reading guy has potential to cement a place and I’m interested to see what Adams offers when fit.

I still think considering the amount of players needed it was a decent recruitment other than the lack of options brought in upfront