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Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Grubby topic, and as bad as they are, but no. I think what she has done is to basically say black people have a place. At the bottom, and if you rise above it, you can't be black.

I fully agree she was right to apologise and it was right she has been suspended. To say it was the most racist thing any mp has said when you’ve had the previous pm coming out with various corkers is a stretch though
Perhaps. I can explain my rationale but we would just end up arguing all night. In short though, whilst making fun of a group of peoples appearance is wrong and racist (we talked at length about this on the 'gammon debate' recently) I think insinuating that a black man cannot be 'successful' and black contains within it far more dangerous and divisive ideas. I have long rallied against the kind of thinking that leads to her saying that, which comes from a different angle from 'traditional racism' but is equally dangerous and I'd argue more prevalent now.

Anyway people say stupid things and she's apologised so thats good.

I like this take on it from Ryan Long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev373c7wSRg