Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
If you want to limit the death count - in the short term at least - then the west says that Russia can keep it's four regions and to hell to Ukraine.

But that is morally reprehensible.

There is no easy solution whatsoever, and the chance of an easy way out just got harder, cos now Putin has formally considered these regions part of Russia, he will never give them up - previously he theoretically may have withdrawn and claimed he stood up for Russians in the regions..now they are part of Russia in his eyes and he's holding onto them.

It makes it far less likely any successor would give them up too, as they are instantly viewed as being weak in the eyes of many Russians.

Was a serious diplomatic escalation in my eyes today.
Well as we didn't act when we were warned then I am afraid giving the tosser what he wants is probably the best solution

It may be morally bankrupt but the alternative seems to be a land war 🤔

I was looking at Biden on tv saying he's sent another message to putin with new sanctions and I thought you are two years behind here buddy

Giving up the Eastern flank is shocking but without any action other than saying oh you are awful 😖 from the west this is where it ends . ?