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  • #46
    Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

    | Mark Drakeford getting angry when asked about NHS performance in Wales citing UK Government budget pressures. UK Government skint mainly because of lockdown/Covid policies. He was critical of the UK Government tightening up the Covid spend. You can’t have it both ways ‍♂️ https://t.co/M9GuHmjfn5

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    • #47
      Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

      That doesn't say anything at all . It's just a keyboard warriors biased opinions . Much like on here .

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      • #48
        Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

        No wonder Drakeford was so livid. Farmer Giles turning up and having the nerve to point the finger when it’s his government starving the uk of cash for public services.

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        • #49
          Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

          Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
          Have a look at the prescription data link...1.5m prescriptions for aspirin, 1.2m for paracetamol...Gps should not be prescribing this stuff they should be sending people to the local pharmacy for it. But with no prescription charges people want it for free. BUT.. the cost is huge. Your local pharmacy gets paid about £1 for dispensing the aspirin, plus a relatively good ingredient cost, plus an allowance for a container.....what a waste of money.
          Have you ever looked at spending as a % of GDP on healthcare for a range of comparable nations? The UK are hardly what you'd call big spenders.

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          • #50
            Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

            Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
            No wonder Drakeford was so livid. Farmer Giles turning up and having the nerve to point the finger when it’s his government starving the uk of cash for public services.
            It was good to see some ire from him

            He's made a lot of mistakes and I do wish he would step down now but the Tories are a bunch of chancers

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            • #51
              Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

              Originally posted by az city View Post
              Have you ever looked at spending as a % of GDP on healthcare for a range of comparable nations? The UK are hardly what you'd call big spenders.
              All this talk that the spending on the NHS is a year on year increase is no good if the spending is not high enough

              Either we spend enough or we come up with an alternative to what we have

              Mistakes are always going to be made across the UK nations in terms of targets , priorities, administration

              You cannot have an organisation as huge as the NHS without a lot of people running it from behind the scenes

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              • #52
                Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
                No wonder Drakeford was so livid. Farmer Giles turning up and having the nerve to point the finger when it’s his government starving the uk of cash for public services.
                “Farmer Giles “ how childish, akin to FakeFord , you whopper.

                Ultimately the First Minister has to take responsibility and accountability: especially if the policy area is devolved.

                How much did he waste on the M4 relief road , was it £145m? This money could have been reallocated into the NHS rather than wasted.

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                • #53
                  Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                  Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
                  No wonder Drakeford was so livid. Farmer Giles turning up and having the nerve to point the finger when it’s his government starving the uk of cash for public services.
                  It's not about pointing the finger, it's about holding the govt to account. It could be your family member waiting for an ambulance next, it's a perfectly legitimate question.

                  The Tories have also massively increased NHS spending, and aside from anything else, Wales gets a block grant and can allocate money to whatever departments they so wish.

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                  • #54
                    Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    It's not about pointing the finger, it's about holding the govt to account. It could be your family member waiting for an ambulance next, it's a perfectly legitimate question.

                    The Tories have also massively increased NHS spending, and aside from anything else, Wales gets a block grant and can allocate money to whatever departments they so wish.
                    They are where they are with the resources they have.
                    Do we deserve better than how it is? Absolutely.
                    Do I think any other party would do any better? I haven't seen anything to suggest so.
                    Do I think that the Welsh Tories would do better? Do me a favour.
                    I actually was quite pleased to see a bit of vitriol from Dripford yesterday. I don't know why the Tories keep electing people like Retweet Davies, if they got someone who was vaguely likeable it would be a good start.

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                    • #55
                      Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      It's not about pointing the finger, it's about holding the govt to account. It could be your family member waiting for an ambulance next, it's a perfectly legitimate question.

                      The Tories have also massively increased NHS spending, and aside from anything else, Wales gets a block grant and can allocate money to whatever departments they so wish.
                      Oh god every thread denigrating Welsh Labour and every thread about the tories you are on it like a rash . Stop trying to pretend you are not a raving tory like the other tory who started this thread. Both raving tory boys .

                      The Tories have increased money to the nhs because they have no choice . Its not an ideological decision ff sake , stop painting them in a good light to support your sickly sycophantic agenda .,you remind of that ginger royal reporter , fawning nonsense .

                      If you want a house painted but can't pay for it and need 500 quid if I only give you 250 quid it's going to be shite

                      The Welsh government need more money to paint their house and your tory boys won't give them enough .

                      It's no more complicated than that .

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                      • #56
                        Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                        “Farmer Giles “ how childish, akin to FakeFord , you whopper.

                        Ultimately the First Minister has to take responsibility and accountability: especially if the policy area is devolved.

                        How much did he waste on the M4 relief road , was it £145m? This money could have been reallocated into the NHS rather than wasted.
                        Gosh you deffo ain't a tory , who are you trying to kid

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                        • #57
                          Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                          Originally posted by superfeathers View Post
                          They are where they are with the resources they have.
                          Do we deserve better than how it is? Absolutely.
                          Do I think any other party would do any better? I haven't seen anything to suggest so.
                          Do I think that the Welsh Tories would do better? Do me a favour.
                          I actually was quite pleased to see a bit of vitriol from Dripford yesterday. I don't know why the Tories keep electing people like Retweet Davies, if they got someone who was vaguely likeable it would be a good start.
                          RT Davies is a millionaire landowner , he knows nothing about ordinary people

                          Typical tory

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                          • #58
                            Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                            Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                            Mr Drakeford cut millions as Health Sectary post Covid nought .

                            Vanity projects delivered over the years nought said

                            Yes e lost his temper this week on a question about waiting times which is an allowable question to be asked

                            He's also lost his rag recently with Plaid leader , one wonders if the honeymoon and fame is over and we are back to normal policy's failures which were there pre Covid ..

                            Lets have more AM cost or ambulances is a good debate ???

                            Living wage v health now is another debate ?

                            Better public transport to take cars off the road not slow them down ffs

                            Just read up on education performance ,sepsis deaths , children in social care , transport access to grow Wales wating lists pre covid .

                            I'm not defending the awful recent naïve government decisions we can call question call the First Minsters won performance and budget spend , you cant have it just one way ..

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                            • #59
                              Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              Oh god every thread denigrating Welsh Labour and every thread about the tories you are on it like a rash . Stop trying to pretend you are not a raving tory like the other tory who started this thread. Both raving tory boys .

                              The Tories have increased money to the nhs because they have no choice . Its not an ideological decision ff sake , stop painting them in a good light to support your sickly sycophantic agenda .,you remind of that ginger royal reporter , fawning nonsense .

                              If you want a house painted but can't pay for it and need 500 quid if I only give you 250 quid it's going to be shite

                              The Welsh government need more money to paint their house and your tory boys won't give them enough .

                              It's no more complicated than that .
                              Or they use the money in these times on critical services if that is being a Tory so be it , get rid of free prescriptions , free bus passes and health care for those who can afford it .

                              Take free bus travel away from folk with good earnings and give it to lowly paid workers

                              Use the WAG tax raising powers raise the tax on those over 80k a year share that with the vulnerable workers /
                              .

                              Cease unoccupied buildings and provide cheap housing , get those off job seekers ,trained and into work there a lot of jobs I know of 3 family members living in clover on benefits , takeaways , booze and fags , and are laughing at its title job seeking , benefits, carer . will they do it no it doesn't give you votes

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                              • #60
                                Re: 23 Years of Labour Led NHS in Wales

                                Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                                Or they use the money in these times on critical services if that is being a Tory so be it , get rid of free prescriptions , free bus passes and health care for those who can afford it .

                                Take free bus travel away from folk with good earnings and give it to lowly paid workers

                                Use the WAG tax raising powers raise the tax on those over 80k a year share that with the vulnerable workers /
                                .

                                Cease unoccupied buildings and provide cheap housing , get those off job seekers ,trained and into work there a lot of jobs I know of 3 family members living in clover on benefits , takeaways , booze and fags , and are laughing at its title job seeking , benefits, carer . will they do it no it doesn't give you votes
                                Yeah there's a bloke down the road with no legs claiming universal credit who paints in his spare time !

                                I have asked someone on here who wants free prescriptions axed to find out if its cost effective 🤔

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