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Thread: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

  1. #201

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad. We got out of jail here.
    Bollocks

  2. #202

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    He's a box to box ball winner

    Joe Allen wouldn't have held back the USA like ampadu did
    Allen would have kept the ball. Allen and Ampadu give a platform to play from. Moore has to play now.

    Bale was dire tonight and then came good. Rodon was god awful. I’m not sure if Rambo and Bale can play in the same side now.

  3. #203

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad. We got out of jail here.
    You are right . Substitutions after 25 minutes are 10 a penny.

  4. #204

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.
    Bollocks.

  5. #205

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Allen would have kept the ball. Allen and Ampadu give a platform to play from. Moore has to play now.

    Bale was dire tonight and then came good. Rodon was god awful. I’m not sure if Rambo and Bale can play in the same side now.
    I think Allen and ampadu would be great but Allen's not fit

  6. #206

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad. We got out of jail here.
    We did

    But we know now that Moore upfront is better suited to the players we have

    So it's onwards 🙂

  7. #207

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    At international level Ramsey's well past his sell by date. I just wonder if his 'status' prevents the journeyman manager from dropping him.
    Yep. I cannot see Page dropping him. In the first half their players just went straight past him. He also lost the ball often as did Bale.

  8. #208

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Allen would have kept the ball. Allen and Ampadu give a platform to play from. Moore has to play now.
    It worked because we put pressure on their centre backs when Moore came on. We never troubled them once in the first half, and going down the wings was a dead-end tactic. I thought we could get the better of the USA if we went through the middle with pace, but playing Moore centrally also worked. The first half was puzzling cos we kept on doing the same things that didn't work.

  9. #209

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I think Allen and ampadu would be great but Allen's not fit
    I don't think we will fully solve the midfield problem until the next batch of youngsters come through.

  10. #210

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Wrong starting line-up, wrong shape. Page must be big enough to admit the fact that we didn't win was down to him.

  11. #211

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yep. I cannot see Page dropping him. In the first half their players just went straight past him. He also lost the ball often as did Bale.
    Losing the ball 1st half wasnt exclusive to them. They were all losing it. Nobody passed it well 1st half.

    Ramseys movement gets us the penalty.

    Has to play v an awful Iran side as does Bale.

  12. #212

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    You are right . Substitutions after 25 minutes are 10 a penny.
    I've seen substitutes substituted in the first half!

  13. #213

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I've seen substitutes substituted in the first half!
    But you've never seen a manager change it in the first half when playing as badly as we did tonight.

    If Page changed his mind as often as you we'd have won.

  14. #214

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I don't think we will fully solve the midfield problem until the next batch of youngsters come through.
    Think you're right there. Our best midfielders of recent times are aging, have lost their spark and in some cases are now a hindrance to the team. And yet....it was Ramsey who put that clever little ball in to Bale who used all his know how to win the penalty and dispatch it. As frustrating as it is to watch previously top class performers losing or giving the ball away time after time, they can make a difference during the game and that's why we now have our first point on the board. We really have no other viable options until, as you said, the next batch of youngsters come through.

  15. #215

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    What did he achieve- one header over the bar !

  16. #216

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    Wrong starting line-up, wrong shape. Page must be big enough to admit the fact that we didn't win was down to him.
    Page fixed it. He made a mistake. We are at the end of a cycle. Ramsey, Allen and Bale are nearly done, we are nearly at a pretty major rebuild. In the first half we had 3 passengers. I’d have brought Moore on earlier but we got out of jail.

  17. #217

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    What did he achieve- one header over the bar !
    If that’s all you saw…..

  18. #218

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I think Allen and ampadu would be great but Allen's not fit
    Yes, but you said Allen wouldn’t have held back USA. We wouldn’t have given the ball away as much as we did had Allen played. His lack of football is going to be a concern now

  19. #219

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    But you've never seen a manager change it in the first half when playing as badly as we did tonight.

    If Page changed his mind as often as you we'd have won.
    I said I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.

  20. #220

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Think you're right there. Our best midfielders of recent times are aging, have lost their spark and in some cases are now a hindrance to the team. And yet....it was Ramsey who put that clever little ball in to Bale who used all his know how to win the penalty and dispatch it. As frustrating as it is to watch previously top class performers losing or giving the ball away time after time, they can make a difference during the game and that's why we now have our first point on the board. We really have no other viable options until, as you said, the next batch of youngsters come through.
    That's why I keep going on about getting them in the squad instead of picking Jonniesta & Gunter every game. It's pointless

  21. #221

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Yes, but you said Allen wouldn’t have held back USA. We wouldn’t have given the ball away as much as we did had Allen played. His lack of football is going to be a concern now
    One option is to play Morrell next to Ampadu if he is fit for the next game. If he's injured we are in a pickle.

  22. #222

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I said I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.
    My bad I've had a few.

    I still don't believe you on your first point though.

  23. #223

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    At international level Ramsey's well past his sell by date. I just wonder if his 'status' prevents the journeyman manager from dropping him.
    What utter shite !!

    He’s still a class act and a game changer

  24. #224

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    What utter shite !!

    He’s still a class act and a game changer
    He's better playing as a 10 though.

  25. #225

    Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

    After the anger of how bad we were in the first half and the stress of the second half, I think it just hit me that I just saw Wales at a World Cup, never mind taking a point off a country 10x the size and with probably more than that again in terms of money and resources. I didn't get as emotional as I thought I would at either of the Euros even being there in person in France, but this one has hit different tonight.

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