Cardiff City V Spurs 1977

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Sayer was a smoker at school.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Spurs came a calling twice during 1977 to leave with no wins at Ninian Park and their fans suffered two defeats in its environs, particularly along Ninian Park Road. Early in 1978 they gained revenge by easily having the better of it at White Hart Lane.

But honour was restored just a few months later during what was then an annual visit to Millwall. Some weeks before they had been hammered at home by Ipswich in the FA Cup. Such was the level of disorder it made national headlines. CCFC urged fans not to travel there. That message only succeeded to elicit the creme de la creme of local nutters to make hurried transport arrangements. Few if any of those had an interest in football but were always eager to aim their Doc Martens at Londoners and Bristolians.

Something similar happened regarding the City going to Chelsea, around 1978, I think?

The Saturday before we were due to visit Stamford Bridge, Chelsea had run amock at Eastville Stadium against Bristol Rovers. A WPC had been punched in the face, knocked unconscious, and had a black eye, it was all over the HTV West news (my grandmother always had her TV ariel facing the West country for some reason )

Anyway, I had already booked my ticket on the supporters' coach (Morris Travel) to travel to Stamford Bridge, I couldn't back out.

[MacAdder]

L

Late 70s... you’re at least 10 years late on that.

Definitely.
Man U were on Match of the Day circa 72 or 73 and the fan invasion with running battles (shown on TV until the authorities decided not to glorify hooliganism by showing it).
I remember Jimmy Hill being staggered by the sight of Oxford bags and Brutus butterfly collared clad MU hoolies kicking the crap out of the opposing fans with their 12 hole DM's/Major Domos.

Happy days

[splott parker]

"Ball to hand"

The one that bloody annoys all of us, the definite obstruction by the defender ‘shepherding’ a ball out for a goal kick with no intention of touching the ball, sticking his fat arse out into the attacker legitimately attempting to get to the ball. How can this not be obstruction when the defender is actively deliberately refusing to gain possession of the ball?

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

The one that bloody annoys all of us, the definite obstruction by the defender ‘shepherding’ a ball out for a goal kick with no intention of touching the ball, sticking his fat arse out into the attacker legitimately attempting to get to the ball. How can this not be obstruction when the defender is actively deliberately refusing to gain possession of the ball?

Almost any other part of the pitch it's deemed a free-kick, but allowed to happen with a defender "shepherding the ball"

[splott parker]

Definitely.
Man U were on Match of the Day circa 72 or 73 and the fan invasion with running battles (shown on TV until the authorities decided not to glorify hooliganism by showing it).
I remember Jimmy Hill being staggered by the sight of Oxford bags and Brutus butterfly collared clad MU hoolies kicking the crap out of the opposing fans with their 12 hole DM's/Major Domos.

Happy days

The Grangetown End in the mid/late 60s very often had to be defended to repel visiting fans from ‘taking over’. By the late 70s and beyond the police had a bit of a plan to combat things, in the days I’ve described, the police had no clue, it was all new to them. It was defend ‘your end’ or face humiliation. Away games the same, we were on The East End at Ashton Gate, The Hammersmith End, Fulham etc. It was just pay at the turnstile and in you go.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

The Grangetown End in the mid/late 60s very often had to be defended to repel visiting fans from ‘taking over’. By the late 70s and beyond the police had a bit of a plan to combat things, in the days I’ve described, the police had no clue, it was all new to them. It was defend ‘your end’ or face humiliation. Away games the same, we were on The East End at Ashton Gate, The Hammersmith End, Fulham etc. It was just pay at the turnstile and in you go.

That must have been scary, you little tiger!

[splott parker]

That must have been scary, you little tiger!

The 5-1 game was one of the best away trips of my life, 1968. One down, then ripped them apart, Tank didn’t turn up

[the other bob wilson]

The one that bloody annoys all of us, the definite obstruction by the defender ‘shepherding’ a ball out for a goal kick with no intention of touching the ball, sticking his fat arse out into the attacker legitimately attempting to get to the ball. How can this not be obstruction when the defender is actively deliberately refusing to gain possession of the ball?

You were watching Big Match Revisited episodes a while back weren’t you. One of them had a Man City v Chelsea game played in the snow on it and I can remember a defender trying that. The ref penalised him and then showed him a yellow card - some things really were better in the old days.

[the other bob wilson]

The Grangetown End in the mid/late 60s very often had to be defended to repel visiting fans from ‘taking over’. By the late 70s and beyond the police had a bit of a plan to combat things, in the days I’ve described, the police had no clue, it was all new to them. It was defend ‘your end’ or face humiliation. Away games the same, we were on The East End at Ashton Gate, The Hammersmith End, Fulham etc. It was just pay at the turnstile and in you go.

The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.

[splott parker]

The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.

We did stay on there, Fulham fans saying ‘Wait until Tank turns up, you’ll soon move’........still waiting , I bet Tank saw how many City fans were on the end and settled down by you and your uncle to observe the football lesson Tosh and co gave to the Cottagers

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.

Did you happen to notice a young Splott Parker at the vanguard of the City mob?

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

[2QUOTE=the other bob wilson;5379661]The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.[/QUOTE]

What tune was 'We have taken over ' being sung to?

[splott parker]

[2QUOTE=the other bob wilson;5379661]The 5-1 at Fulham was my first away game. My uncle took me and I badgered him to get to the ground at some ridiculous time like one o clock - whatever time it was, we were just about the only people in the ground when we got in. However, about half an hour later, a pretty large group of City fans appeared on the Hammersmith End singing “we have taken over”. We were up the other end by the Cottage and had a good view of what happened. My memory (possibly rose tinted) is that the City fans resisted the efforts of ever bigger groups of Fulham fans to take their end back. I seem to remember it took ages for any coppers to turn up and only then did things calm down.

What tune was 'We have taken over ' being sung to?[/QUOTE]

‘We Shall Overcome’

[splott parker]

Did you happen to notice a young Splott Parker at the vanguard of the City mob?

I was with Bluetit back at base camp guarding the barracks

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

I was with Bluetit back at base camp guarding the barracks

Wise decision - live to fight another day. I like your style!