MARK HUDSON SACKED

[Divine Wright]

Of course they were.

People just don’t like to admit it because it isn’t fashionable and instead like to focus solely on his poor record in the transfer market when given money to spend.

Neil Warnock is a bit of a toss pot- That's why people are reluctant.

I think those who don't have a boner for Warnock are probably able to see beyond the hype and swashbuckle.

[SuisseBluebird]

The problem here is we are working with men who hardly ever get told they are wrong.

They are almost always convinced that it isn't them. It is playing out here. The fall guy is always the bad manager that they put in place. They conveniently ignore the fact they put them there.

Nobody with any ambition will touch this managerial position with a bargepole. The club would certainly not align with their goals. We are a club running on life support trying to do everything as cheaply as possible.
If you are doing this then the one place you should spend good money is getting a quality manager. Our board won't though.

The continually balls things up again and again but hold themselves above judgment. They then sack the manager and start again.

Certainly been a depressing trend since they opted to give Warnock another shot back before the 19/20 campaign. Albeit you could give them the benefit of the doubt on that decision, sticking with the manager who had galvanised the club and the fans (however this was not my preference at the time).

But they then since went on to Neil Harris, did not come with a strong resume and was recently sacked by Millwall. A decision that really lacked any ambition and always came across as a cheap option.

Then came McCarthy, again a sensible enough decision at the time considering the circumstances, bring in an experienced manager on a short term contract. It almost appeared that someone actually knew what they were doing. But then they decide to offer him a permanent contract before the season was done, there was no need and they removed any other option to explore off the table.

A record 8 defeats on the bounce later and they find themselves in the cycle of rewarding whatever coach is available on the staff to have a go. First Morison, and then Hudson and now Whitehead.

I cannot foresee any decent manager looking to build something at this club joining in the near future. It'll likely just be the usual motley crew who do the managerial merry-go-round who are happy to rock up somewhere and pick up a cheque. Depressing.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Of course they were.

People just don’t like to admit it because it isn’t fashionable and instead like to focus solely on his poor record in the transfer market when given money to spend.

Because the good times lasted two years and his bad years were still going long after he left. Why does this keep having to be explained?

[Hilts]

This final 3rd thing. !!! We are shit at playing from back to front.

One of the main reasons we are poor in the final 3rd is we cant get the ball there quick enough. By the time we do opposition defences are behind the ball.

As a team we are ok at defending. Its not because of a particularly strong back 4.

We have no playing style. We cant play a passing game and we cant play a long ball game. We can just set up to not concede and somehow nick a goal.

Apart from Micks 5 man centre halves its the worst football ive witnessed for years.

[Dorcus]

Neil Warnock is a bit of a toss pot- That's why people are reluctant.

I think those who don't have a boner for Warnock are probably able to see beyond the hype and swashbuckle.

If only Warnock had been sacked the moment we claimed promotion in 2018 I contend we would be in a far better position now.

[Rjk]

witcoop on twitter reckons Warnock and also we will try to bring Hugill back in

[Ninja]

witcoop on twitter reckons Warnock and also we will try to bring Hugill back in

If that happens, it needs to be until the end of the season and no further, with incentives in his contract for keeping us up and then that's it, job done.

They have six months to get the next appointment right, and not somebody Warnock suggests either...

[A Quiet Monkfish]

After today's game I formed the opinion that little was going to change under Hudson and better to change things now than wait any longer. Like most who watch City 'in the flesh' week in week out, I don't think we're that bad a squad, it's just we don't have the right mix of players - something which has probably only become obvious as the weeks roll on. There are few options in attack insomuch as we started today with Harris on the right wing and ended with Davies on the right wing. Defensively we're OK, we can stroke the ball around in midfield OK, but that's it - literally. We've run out of ideas and things aren't going to change with the status quo. Relegation would be a disaster, and could be a league 1 side for years, so the Club has made the right decision, this time, in changing the manager before it's too late. We saw what Morison was able to do when he brought in Hugill etc, so let's hope the new man can do the same.

[J R Hartley]

Cardiff looks like an awful option though doesn't it.... A club without a great atmosphere around it right now, little money, and poor prospects.

I know. Wishful thinking more than anything.

I don’t for one second think Dyche would put up with Tans nonsense or Wilder for that matter.

[2b2bdoo]

witcoop on twitter reckons Warnock and also we will try to bring Hugill back in

That would do it

[Trigger]

Feel a bit for Mark, with everything around the club it's not the ideal first stint in management and it probably wasn't a decent amount of time.

But it was probably the right decision. We weren't improving.

I just struggle to see who we attract at the moment. Will almost certainly be a short term appointment.

[2b2bdoo]

Feel a bit for Mark, with everything around the club it's not the ideal first stint in management and it probably wasn't a decent amount of time.

But it was probably the right decision. We weren't improving.

I just struggle to see who we attract at the moment. Will almost certainly be a short term appointment.

He just isn’t a manager, those team selections were weird.

[Dave Blue]

You're right. Morison brought in 17 players to change our playing style. It was a deliberate move away from the long ball football we'd had under Warnock, Harris and McCarthy. Last season Morison's side was much more direct. I assume there was some dialogue between Morison and the board about changing our playing style.

Going back to a different style needs different players. You can't just expect players to play a certain way because a manager wants that. To a large extent, how you play depends on your personel.

Getting this side to play a more direct, physical game is about as laughable and possible as getting Warnock's promotion winning side to play a more possession-type of football.

Whatever happens, we're stuck with the squad we have. Whoever comes in will have to work with what we have, including the style they play. It's not the type of football that's at fault

I agree that NW would be unsuited to this squad but saying the type of football isn’t at fault, I’m not so sure. It’s horrendously slow, we spend minutes ponderously moving up the pitch then all the way back again. This was the biggest time waste of today that hindered us throughout.

[Dave Blue]

In the final third, yes, agreed. Defensively we're ok.

Watch their equaliser again.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Because the good times lasted two years and his bad years were still going long after he left. Why does this keep having to be explained?

Remind me again how many managers have got us promoted to the Premier League with free signings like Bamba, Hoillett and NML? But SOME people don’t want to remember that. Utterly laughable.

I’ll just leave it there.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I know. Wishful thinking more than anything.

I don’t for one second think Dyche would put up with Tans nonsense or Wilder for that matter.

Wilder was linked to Pompey recently, I think his spell at Boro has damaged his rep to an extent that I think we could get him. I wish we acted sooner and got him when we delayed sacking Mick.

[blue lewj]

If I had the choice of Warnock until the end of the season or a choice arrived at by this board if left to their own devices I'd take Warnock every time.

With this board who knows who they would bring in?
Probably bring James Rowberry back or something.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I thought the first two years of warnock were immense

Swashbuckling , backs to the wall , us v the rest

Exactly the sort of football that stirs up ccfc fans even if some won't admit it

What you, and others don't get, is that we haven't got the players for that.

[Ninian1962]

I wouldn't be negative as to what manager would consider this Job, maybe a novel way of seeing who's willing is to actually advertise the job and wait for the post. I would consider giving it to Colin for the remainder of the season and with the understanding that if he avoided relegation he's out all the same, it's been dire for years but its still I think an attractive job.

Maybe the current squad aren`t earning enough to be able to afford to pay Colin a slice of their appearance money if selected?

Maybe the agency employing his son don`t have enough available players on their books for him to sign if we are freed up from the transfer embargo to pay transfer fees?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

This final 3rd thing. !!! We are shit at playing from back to front.

One of the main reasons we are poor in the final 3rd is we cant get the ball there quick enough. By the time we do opposition defences are behind the ball.

Utter nonsense. The reason we are poor in the final third is a lack of quality and a failure to get players into the box. You talk as if we forever got behind defences playing long ball and turned defences. In truth, teams defend deep against that tactic.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I agree that NW would be unsuited to this squad but saying the type of football isn’t at fault, I’m not so sure. It’s horrendously slow, we spend minutes ponderously moving up the pitch then all the way back again. This was the biggest time waste of today that hindered us throughout.

Yes, it's slow but that's the fault of the players and the way it is being implemented. There's a time for some slower, controlled passing. It's not generally around the penalty area. That's not the style of the game that's at fault.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What you, and others don't get, is that we haven't got the players for that.

Clough took a rag bag bunch at forest and got them up then made them champions

Kenny Burns was towards the end of his career and playing as a striker for Birmingham City when clough used him as a centre back

It's not as if all the players are one inch high and four foot wide and can only play on the wing

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Watch their equaliser again.

We have one of the better defensive records in the division, nobody has given us a hiding. We have the worst attack in the Championship.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Clough took a rag bag bunch at forest and got them up then made them champions

Kenny Burns was towards the end of his career and playing as a striker for Birmingham City when clough used him as a centre back

It's not as if all the players are one inch high and four foot wide and can only play on the wing

Well, both Jason Perry and Ian Walsh on the Radio Wales phone-in have said the same as me. Perhaps they're wrong as well.

Ian Walsh gave a resounding "Good God, no" to the thought of Warnock while Perry strongly disagreed with even thinking about him.

[olderblue]

I'd rather go for Ainsworth or Joey Barton than have Warnock back