Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
300 K troop last mobilization, many were just put on trains and sent to the border for a few days training, you can imagine the carnage


I watch a few Vlogs on people who fled the country to avoid mobilization, they just dont want to be part of it
Along with most in the 'west' we've viewed nearly a year of non-stop media reports painting Ukraine, it's war, it's people, and it's leaders in a favourable light. Everything Ukraine does is brave, heroic, everything Russia does is the opposite. Maybe it's not all true. Everyone supported our wars in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria - now we're learning we were fed just what government wanted us to know. There's no way the public of UK, Germany, USA etc. would tolerate governments spending Łbillions of taxpayers money on a war that can't be won. Not only that, should our planes and tanks kill 18yr old Russian conscripts any more that Russia kill Ukrainians ? It also doesn't help the cause of peace when Biden's wealth has come through his crackhead son via ....