Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

[Hilts]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

More a case of being realistic.

Fury wants to fight fighters he knows he can beat. The Gypsy Chicken.

Whereas AJ and Hearn rather than face Wilder took on fearsome oldies Pulev and Povetkin and the mighty Charles Martin and Dominic Brezeale.

Then somehow gets kod by an obese Mexican.🤣

[logic]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Whereas AJ and Hearn rather than face Wilder took on fearsome oldies Pulev and Povetkin and the mighty Charles Martin and Dominic Brezeale.

Then somehow gets kod by an obese Mexican.��

Weren't a few of those mandatories?

You think AJ was scared of Wilder, who has had his arse handed to him by the only really decent fighter he's been up against? Like AJ or not, he's a far better boxer than Wilder, the only issue would be if Wilder could get that one punch off.

The Ruiz loss was one of those things, you could see he was concussed after that one shot. It happens.

Are you claiming Fury's opponent level is the same as that of AJ? No rematch with Klitscho, "negotiated" for an AJ fight knowing full well Wilder had a rematch clause so no AJ fight would occur, now ducking Usyk...

[Hilts]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Weren't a few of those mandatories?

You think AJ was scared of Wilder, who has had his arse handed to him by the only really decent fighter he's been up against? Like AJ or not, he's a far better boxer than Wilder, the only issue would be if Wilder could get that one punch off.

The Ruiz loss was one of those things, you could see he was concussed after that one shot. It happens.

Are you claiming Fury's opponent level is the same as that of AJ? No rematch with Klitscho, "negotiated" for an AJ fight knowing full well Wilder had a rematch clause so no AJ fight would occur, now ducking Usyk...

I think Wilder is far better than everyone on AJs winning record.

What AJ opponents that he has beaten are so much better than Furys or who would have beaten Wilder.?

[blue lewj]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

This was my point.

Knew we'd agree one day.

Shall we celebrate?

Nah, you're alright.

[logic]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

I think Wilder is far better than everyone on AJs winning record.

What AJ opponents that he has beaten are so much better than Furys or who would have beaten Wilder.?

The only good boxer Wilder has fought is Fury and been handily beaten three times - ignore the bs draw. Molina and Brazeale were common opponents, but the likes of Parker, Takam et al that AJ has fought are above the level of opponents Wilder has faced.

I think Wilder has one hell of a KO punch. He's entirely one dimensional, that's all he has. His technique and defence are poor. Avoid that punch, can put serious damage on him.

Prior to the Klitschko fight, the standard of opposition for Fury was poor. As much respect I give his camp for the tactics against Klitschko, it was probably the worst HW title fight ever, least number of punches thrown, a cwtch fest. It worked, so respect.

After Klitschko, 3 Wilder fights, Del boy, Dillian along with legends like Wallin, Schwarz, Pianeta and Seferi. I'd say AJ has fought better fighters overall.

I think Joshua is on the decline, the losses have taken a lot out of him. Thought his tactics were better the second fight against Usyk, but the corner were poor.

At least he fought Usyk though.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

'Usyk agrees to 70/30 spilt if Fury makes £1m Ukraine donation'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12830686

[J R Hartley]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Fury is the A side of course he deserves a bigger split

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Fury is the A side of course he deserves a bigger split

I think the 60 percent to the winner made sense as well. Fury obviously shit out.

I fancy an upset.

[logic]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Fury is the A side of course he deserves a bigger split

Usyk holds three belts so deserves 75% of the money...


The whole purse thing needs to be changed imo. All title fights should be 50/50 split. All other fights remain as is.

[J R Hartley]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Usyk holds three belts so deserves 75% of the money...


The whole purse thing needs to be changed imo. All title fights should be 50/50 split. All other fights remain as is.

That’s not how boxing works

It’s not the FA Cup

Besides, the belt Fury holds is the most prestigious

[logic]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

That’s not how boxing works

It’s not the FA Cup

Besides, the belt Fury holds is the most prestigious

I'm aware that's not how it works, I'm suggesting that's how it should work.

Is the belt prestigious when it's holder is ducking Usyk, a fighter he's previously disparaged?

[Hilts]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Usyk holds three belts so deserves 75% of the money...


.

Fury is widely regarded as the no.1 Heavyweight and the genuine Champion.

[logic]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Fury is widely regarded as the no.1 Heavyweight and the genuine Champion.

Yet is ducking Usyk.

[Hilts]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

Yet is ducking Usyk.

In your opinion.

[stan butler]

Re: Surely it's Tyson Fury to blame for these fights not being made?

I've heard that Usyk said he will accept 70/30 as long as Fury donates £1m to the Ukrainian war effort.
He had better get it upfront because i believe Furys charity donation offer a few years ago is still to be done