Is there a solution that would bring an immediate end to the transfer embargo?

[fugsyphil]

Re: Is there a solution that would bring an immediate end to the transfer embargo?

See the detailed explanation set out earlier in this thread

Hadn't read the clarified post when I asked though still not much the wiser!! Apart from he's bent as!

[The Lone Gunman]

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You are quite right Dave.

Interesting though that clubs in which he had previously had an involvement were in the 5 who didn`t vote for him and that in his election application to clubs he "forgot" to mention his disqualification as a director.

I’m guessing he was no longer disqualified at that stage.

It would be interesting to know where Cardiff City would have ended up if Ridsdale had never got involved. Would the new stadium have come to fruition? Would the club have retained its Championship status for as long as it did? We’ll never know, but I’m doubtful on both counts.

[Ninian1962]

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A great response but is the PR vote / action fact or supposition?

All of the Ridsdale actions are facts which can be evidenced by the links I put into the post.

Dave S`s point about PR receiving election support from 19 of the 24 Championship clubs is also factual.

A further point of concern is why the EFL CEO Trevor Birch didn`t raise concerns about Ridsdale getting on to the EFL main board (even though he was voted in by clubs rather than the rest of the EFL board). Trevor is a very experienced Licenced Insolvency Practitioner so would have been aware of how serious an offence Ridsdale would have committed in order to get a 7 year banning order

[Nobody's Rep]

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All of the Ridsdale actions are facts which can be evidenced by the links I put into the post.

Dave S`s point about PR receiving election support from 19 of the 24 Championship clubs is also factual.

A further point of concern is why the EFL CEO Trevor Birch didn`t raise concerns about Ridsdale getting on to the EFL main board (even though he was voted in by clubs rather than the rest of the EFL board). Trevor is a very experienced Licenced Insolvency Practitioner so would have been aware of how serious an offence Ridsdale would have committed in order to get a 7 year banning order

It sums up football at the moment though in terms of moral baselines or absolute lack of them - money talks not integrity

[Ninian1962]

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I’m guessing he was no longer disqualified at that stage.

It would be interesting to know where Cardiff City would have ended up if Ridsdale had never got involved. Would the new stadium have come to fruition? Would the club have retained its Championship status for as long as it did? We’ll never know, but I’m doubtful on both counts.

There is little doubt that the new stadium would not have been completed without Ridsdale`s involvement as the Council minutes show that Sam`s financial plans did not stand up to scrutiny despite several updates requested and provided as at no time did they show where the money was coming from to complete the project. Ridsdale provided that evidence.

[BLUEAWAY]

Re: Is there a solution that would bring an immediate end to the transfer embargo?

All of the Ridsdale actions are facts which can be evidenced by the links I put into the post.

Dave S`s point about PR receiving election support from 19 of the 24 Championship clubs is also factual.

A further point of concern is why the EFL CEO Trevor Birch didn`t raise concerns about Ridsdale getting on to the EFL main board (even though he was voted in by clubs rather than the rest of the EFL board). Trevor is a very experienced Licenced Insolvency Practitioner so would have been aware of how serious an offence Ridsdale would have committed in order to get a 7 year banning order

Yes
But it is supposition that he would vote against us although it would be understandable given the facts.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Is there a solution that would bring an immediate end to the transfer embargo?

Yes. But it is supposition that he would vote against us although it would be understandable given the facts.

It's supposition that there would be any vote in the first place. City broke the rules, which are pretty clear, so I don't know how any vote would come about.

[the other bob wilson]

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It's supposition that there would be any vote in the first place. City broke the rules, which are pretty clear, so I don't know how any vote would come about.

I’m more interested in knowing why they broke the rules - I still don’t understand why they got themselves in a position where they paid up, yet took so long about it that they received what I understand is an automatic embargo.

[Rjk]

Re: Is there a solution that would bring an immediate end to the transfer embargo?

It's supposition that there would be any vote in the first place. City broke the rules, which are pretty clear, so I don't know how any vote would come about.

someone must have decided to apply this rule, and seemingly they only did so after the appeal of the CAS decision failed (although not the subsequent appeal in the Swiss high court)

[Ninian1962]

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It's supposition that there would be any vote in the first place. City broke the rules, which are pretty clear, so I don't know how any vote would come about.

Cardiff City and its owner and directors made several errors throughout the whole matter of the Emiliano Sala transfer, including the following

1. Allowing Neil Warnock to promote and push for the transfer in the first place with his friend Willie McKay because the transfer fee was well above what Nantes were expecting from the deal and the salary being offered to Sala was 4 times what he was being paid by Nantes. No-one at the club had the football knowledge to spot this straight away or ,if they did, failed to prevent the deal happening

2. In addition to the over inflated fee and wages the club knew (or most certainly should have known with about 5 minutes of research) that Willie McKay was not a licenced intermediary and was also subject to a 5 year bankruptcy. Neil Warnock certainly knew as he had previous experience of dealing with the McKay family - with Willie at QPR and with his son at CCFC (Sol Bamba`s agent was McKay`s son`s company which subsequently went into liquidation in the Scottish courts)

3. The club made an error in the transfer agreement with Nantes by not having a clause that said the transfer fee only became payable when Sala`s contract terms were accepted by all the football authorities for all competitions that CCFC played in. The CAS ruling notes show that the Premier League (in which we were playing at the time) said that some of the contract terms were unacceptable to them but he tragically died before the necessary adjustments could be made. Again an example of football contract details knowledge which the club didn`t have.

4. Despite being given warning of a deadline, the club appeared to miss a payment before that deadline lapsed


After all of the above is said , there is a large degree of unfairness(in my opinion) in the EFL decision to impose a three window transfer restriction even if the club pays the rest of the transfer fee due to Nantes. The specific breach which the club is being penalised for is to prevent clubs failing to pay for a player who enhances their playing squad. For tragic reasons the club could never have gained such a playing advantage and this , as I understand it, is the basis of the club`s appeal to the EFL to have the decision reversed.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I must say that after 3 years of reading literally 100's of 'ITK' posts on this matter [including a few of my own], this is the most succinct and informative summary of the situation. Thank you.

[az city]

Re: Is there a solution that would bring an immediate end to the transfer embargo?

I must say that after 3 years of reading literally 100's of 'ITK' posts on this matter [including a few of my own], this is the most succinct and informative summary of the situation. Thank you.

Totally agree. Very informative.

Sadly, it makes Cardiff City seem like a sitcom/soap opera in which the main actors are either nefarious or catastrophically incompetent.

[Dorcus]

Re: Is there a solution that would bring an immediate end to the transfer embargo?

Cardiff City and its owner and directors made several errors throughout the whole matter of the Emiliano Sala transfer, including the following

1. Allowing Neil Warnock to promote and push for the transfer in the first place with his friend Willie McKay because the transfer fee was well above what Nantes were expecting from the deal and the salary being offered to Sala was 4 times what he was being paid by Nantes. No-one at the club had the football knowledge to spot this straight away or ,if they did, failed to prevent the deal happening

2. In addition to the over inflated fee and wages the club knew (or most certainly should have known with about 5 minutes of research) that Willie McKay was not a licenced intermediary and was also subject to a 5 year bankruptcy. Neil Warnock certainly knew as he had previous experience of dealing with the McKay family - with Willie at QPR and with his son at CCFC (Sol Bamba`s agent was McKay`s son`s company which subsequently went into liquidation in the Scottish courts)

3. The club made an error in the transfer agreement with Nantes by not having a clause that said the transfer fee only became payable when Sala`s contract terms were accepted by all the football authorities for all competitions that CCFC played in. The CAS ruling notes show that the Premier League (in which we were playing at the time) said that some of the contract terms were unacceptable to them but he tragically died before the necessary adjustments could be made. Again an example of football contract details knowledge which the club didn`t have.

4. Despite being given warning of a deadline, the club appeared to miss a payment before that deadline lapsed


After all of the above is said , there is a large degree of unfairness(in my opinion) in the EFL decision to impose a three window transfer restriction even if the club pays the rest of the transfer fee due to Nantes. The specific breach which the club is being penalised for is to prevent clubs failing to pay for a player who enhances their playing squad. For tragic reasons the club could never have gained such a playing advantage and this , as I understand it, is the basis of the club`s appeal to the EFL to have the decision reversed.

With such a level of incompetence being the hallmark of both the club's management structure and culture, what hope is there Cardiff City can avoid falling into the football abyss?