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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    The guys a virtue signalling champagne socialist, don’t waste your time with melts like that.
    Ah this term, champagne socialist. Tell me, what's the exact amount of wealth you can have before you can criticise how the tories have failed the country (on purpose).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    Ah this term, champagne socialist. Tell me, what's the exact amount of wealth you can have before you can criticise how the tories have failed the country (on purpose).
    Are you a "melt" Doucas? (Whatever that is!) 😂 I think we all are in this hot weather 🌡️

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    Ah this term, champagne socialist. Tell me, what's the exact amount of wealth you can have before you can criticise how the tories have failed the country (on purpose).
    I would have thought, in a democracy you should be able to criticise any party , however…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    I would have thought, in a democracy you should be able to criticise any party , however…..
    But you're the one that used the term champagne socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    But you're the one that used the term champagne socialist.
    I think it's more that they tend to be immune from the impact of policies they support. Which is of course true of Wealty Tories too. But you slag off the right-wing rich so you should probably expect the same back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    You live in Wales I presume - a country that is responsible 100% for the running of Health , Welfare and Education. And we have had 26 years of Labour in power. How is Health, Wealth and Education working out for us ?
    It could be worse

    It certainly would be if the Tories were running things

  7. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    Have Welsh budgets not been cut during this time quite signficantly?

    Please tell the crowd, how have the conservatives (who have far far more power) improved wealth in the UK?

    PS - Dorcas is my alternate account
    5 percent interest rates now

    Labours fault

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It could be worse

    It certainly would be if the Tories were running things
    Worse cancer wait times in the UK and a welsh ambulance service that is not fit for purpose
    Pretty sure we are still bottom of PISA education results table - Labour been in power for 26 years - they are responsible for Education policy in Wales - how could it be any worse Sludge ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Worse cancer wait times in the UK and a welsh ambulance service that is not fit for purpose
    Pretty sure we are still bottom of PISA education results table - Labour been in power for 26 years - they are responsible for Education policy in Wales - how could it be any worse Sludge ?
    Fourth out of Four ?

    That's not third world is it ?

    Last out of 30 countries .......your arguement may hold some sway

    You are doing a very good impression of a raving tory on here

    If you think it's bad now that lot would absolutely crucify Wales

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Worse cancer wait times in the UK and a welsh ambulance service that is not fit for purpose
    Pretty sure we are still bottom of PISA education results table - Labour been in power for 26 years - they are responsible for Education policy in Wales - how could it be any worse Sludge ?
    You should read this - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...o-put-26918450

    and this thread which tears apart how tories would provide extra funding for the NHS in Wales - https://twitter.com/WillHayCardiff/s...99929621528576

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    You should read this - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...o-put-26918450

    and this thread which tears apart how tories would provide extra funding for the NHS in Wales - https://twitter.com/WillHayCardiff/s...99929621528576
    Icwales and Will Hayward ... oh dear - have you read some of the comments

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Fourth out of Four ?

    That's not third world is it ?

    Last out of 30 countries .......your arguement may hold some sway

    You are doing a very good impression of a raving tory on here

    If you think it's bad now that lot would absolutely crucify Wales
    Yeah strange that isnt comparing us against the education results of fellow kids in the UK rather than comparing somewhere like Afghanistan. Im not really bothered about we stack up against Afghan kids for example - I am about how we stack against kids just over the bridge.

    Buy hey ho - if you have your tongue so far up Drakefords backside then so be it. Like a sheep voting red regardless of how poor Welsh Labour are. Drakeford needs more brain dead sheep like your goodself to keep him power - in fact in that respect - his policy is working a treat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Yeah strange that isnt comparing us against the education results of fellow kids in the UK rather than comparing somewhere like Afghanistan. Im not really bothered about we stack up against Afghan kids for example - I am about how we stack against kids just over the bridge.

    Buy hey ho - if you have your tongue so far up Drakefords backside then so be it. Like a sheep voting red regardless of how poor Welsh Labour are. Drakeford needs more brain dead sheep like your goodself to keep him power - in fact in that respect - his policy is working a treat..
    I think if our health and educational outcomes are 4th out of 4 its really not worth debating the matter as if we are up against a third world country

    I think drakeford should go as soon as possible but if the alternative is one of your tory twats then long may he reign

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    https://youtu.be/749MG6FIi08

    These stats similar to ones I've posted on here are damning. I'll await the usual tory apologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    https://youtu.be/749MG6FIi08

    These stats similar to ones I've posted on here are damning. I'll await the usual tory apologists.
    Got to 30 seconds before the first thing that was untrue was said..

    Look at the guys videos. It's catastrophe click bait. Paul Joseph Watson stuff without the musical interludes

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    Piss off all you taffy tory traitors

    Go and live in Surrey you soppy ponces

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Piss off all you taffy tory traitors

    Go and live in Surrey you soppy ponces
    Treachery isn't based on who you vote for you angry fascist oddball!

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    I came onto the political section tonight to see if there were comments on the immigration centre for unaccompanied children in Dover. The painting over of the Mickey Mouse mural because it was ‘too welcoming’. I’ve always had contempt for Tories but this is on a new level of evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Treachery isn't based on who you vote for you angry fascist oddball!
    Sludge and others cant seem to understand or get a grip that there maybe other people out there with a different political opinion to their own. So their response is to stamp their feet and shout at the sheer audacity that people may think differently. Chuck in a few insults - and then in a few years try and convince the same people they slagged off to vote the same as they do.

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    Re: Do you detest all Tories?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    I came onto the political section tonight to see if there were comments on the immigration centre for unaccompanied children in Dover. The painting over of the Mickey Mouse mural because it was ‘too welcoming’. I’ve always had contempt for Tories but this is on a new level of evil.
    It is a new low in petty, crass, vindictive posturing.

    He has actually 'instructed' government workers to spend public money on making a reception centre more grim and unwelcoming for unaccompanied child refugees. What a perfect illustration of the values and priorities at the top.

    Although it might come back to bite Jenrick and his party. Hopefully.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-asylum-centre

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    It is a new low in petty, crass, vindictive posturing.

    He has actually 'instructed' government workers to spend public money on making a reception centre more grim and unwelcoming for unaccompanied child refugees. What a perfect illustration of the values and priorities at the top.

    Although it might come back to bite Jenrick and his party. Hopefully.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-asylum-centre
    Exactly the kind of story left-wingers love to get absolutely furious about to distract them from the bigger picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Exactly the kind of story left-wingers love to get absolutely furious about to distract them from the bigger picture
    Really? Now and again we come across a small story that illustrates the bigger picture. Like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Really? Now and again we come across a small story that illustrates the bigger picture. Like this one.
    The UK is trying to stop people making an illegal journey across the channel from a safe country that enriches criminal gangs. This could be seen as encouraging it. It's easy to point to stuff like this but what about the kids who's parents are losing their jobs here for example? How might those kids lives be impacted?

    https://www.southwalesguardian.co.uk...sylum-seekers/

    That's why I say it's a nothing story. People can get furious over a mural to stop them thinking about things like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Sludge and others cant seem to understand or get a grip that there maybe other people out there with a different political opinion to their own. So their response is to stamp their feet and shout at the sheer audacity that people may think differently. Chuck in a few insults - and then in a few years try and convince the same people they slagged off to vote the same as they do.
    You and your tory buddy on here will never change

    I don't care what you think

    You are persona non grata

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