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  • #31
    Re: Why are so many people dying young?

    "I'm not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens"
    - Woody Allen.

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    • #32
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      Too many conspirators in the thread for me to comment but changing gears slightly, I had reason to be over the Heath Hossi last night, the subject and reason for my visit got to the Heath yesterday at 16.30 was not seen until 01.30 and after a spell with the doc was kept in for obs but had to wait until 04.30 until a bed was available, was very happy that the person was seen, and eventually given a bed but the organisation and info in the waiting area was a bit sad to witness, a couple of guys and gals (staff) doing their best to cope with what they had in front of them, one Junior doc on duty run off his feet, finance is crucial here but please no politics, management must and should do better with the funds available to them.

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      • #33
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        Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
        Too many conspirators in the thread for me to comment but changing gears slightly, I had reason to be over the Heath Hossi last night, the subject and reason for my visit got to the Heath yesterday at 16.30 was not seen until 01.30 and after a spell with the doc was kept in for obs but had to wait until 04.30 until a bed was available, was very happy that the person was seen, and eventually given a bed but the organisation and info in the waiting area was a bit sad to witness, a couple of guys and gals (staff) doing their best to cope with what they had in front of them, one Junior doc on duty run off his feet, finance is crucial here but please no politics, management must and should do better with the funds available to them.
        You have my sympathy, hope you're feeling better. I've had the almost exact experience three times over the past 6 weeks with my mother. Most of the staff are brilliant, kind and helpful. The NHS is in a dire situation.

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by OurManFlint II View Post
          We come unbidden into this life, and if we are lucky we find a purpose beyond starvation, misery, and early death which, lest we forget, is the common lot.

          Honestly anybody reading this board might think everyone had read Abraham Verghese

          “God will judge us, Mr. Harris, by--by what we did to relieve the suffering of our fellow human beings. I don't think God cares what doctrine we embrace.”

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by MacAdder View Post
            Nonsense. Tory government innit
            They’re not dying. More msm lies

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            • #36
              Re: Why are so many people dying young?

              People are not eating enough rice & bread puddings.

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              • #37
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                Because only the good die young?

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                • #38
                  Re: Why are so many people dying young?

                  Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                  Too many conspirators in the thread for me to comment but changing gears slightly, I had reason to be over the Heath Hossi last night, the subject and reason for my visit got to the Heath yesterday at 16.30 was not seen until 01.30 and after a spell with the doc was kept in for obs but had to wait until 04.30 until a bed was available, was very happy that the person was seen, and eventually given a bed but the organisation and info in the waiting area was a bit sad to witness, a couple of guys and gals (staff) doing their best to cope with what they had in front of them, one Junior doc on duty run off his feet, finance is crucial here but please no politics, management must and should do better with the funds available to them.
                  Speed cameras cost a fortune you know, road markings, months doing research into do people want it (they didn't but who cares) how could the Welsh government possibly improve the NHS, slower speeds than the rest of the World are far more critical.

                  Get well soon

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                  • #39
                    Re: Why are so many people dying young?

                    Best way to cure the NHS in Wales or anywhere else for that matter - scrap and start again with a different model.
                    One that offers immediate medical attention for those that need it.
                    Have one system for the whole country - not separate systems systems form England Scotland and Wales
                    Run it like Welsh water - for bespoke specialised services - it maybe more cost effective to get send a patient to a private clinic.
                    Let's treat it like other countries and required insurance for non UK residents (except for emergencies)

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                    • #40
                      Re: Why are so many people dying young?

                      Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                      Speed cameras cost a fortune you know, road markings, months doing research into do people want it (they didn't but who cares) how could the Welsh government possibly improve the NHS, slower speeds than the rest of the World are far more critical.

                      Get well soon
                      Patient wasn't me !!, I wasn't very clear in my description in masking the patient, but thanks anyway, it was someone very close and appreciated

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                      • #41
                        Re: Why are so many people dying young?

                        Originally posted by Heathblue View Post
                        Patient wasn't me !!, I wasn't very clear in my description in masking the patient, but thanks anyway, it was someone very close and appreciated
                        Apologies, I was speed reading and jumping ahead, I hope they are better very quickly

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                        • #42
                          Re: Why are so many people dying young?

                          You can throw all the money you want at the NHS, but if it isn’t managed suitably you’re wasting your time. Patients that don’t need hospital treatment, but regularly go or needlessly call for ambulances are another problem.

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by pipster View Post
                            Asseem Malhottra (Cardiologist - vaccine advocate - and was giving people the jab live on GMTV) has raised some interesting questions - re excessive sudden cardiac deaths - the rise was seen in the UK, South Africa and Israel. About 15,000 excessive deaths in the UK - with similar percentages in other countries - that recorded the data - compared to average on previous years.

                            He has raised concerns over last vaccine rollout which I think was the MRNA one (Im not a Doc as you can tell).

                            The incidence of reaction was 1 in 800 - compare that to Thalidomide which was about 1 in 10,000 - and that was pulled.

                            Oh yes I forgot - for Sludge's benefit - it was the Tories and Maggie Thatcher that were ultimately responsible for this - bloody scum. Whereas St Mark of Drakefordshire was our guardian angel by keeping us locked down - thus letting the tidal wave of Corona hit Bristol instead.
                            Sadly anyone questioning the big pharma companies are being labelled as conspiracy theorists.

                            My brother is an A&E doctor and - despite having had far more vaccines than me throughout his life - wouldn’t touch the Covid vaccines with a bargepole. He’s witnessed a “crazy” (his words) increase in young previously healthy males turning up in his A&E dept in Scotland since covid vaccines were mandated.

                            It’s being more widely reported now, but the producers of the vaccines are still keen to quieten voices and slow to release data.

                            I’ve had 3 shots, but as an otherwise healthy 40 something year old am comfortable that the risk of covid was probably lower than the risk of an adverse reaction.

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by Re-sign Carl Dale View Post
                              Sadly anyone questioning the big pharma companies are being labelled as conspiracy theorists.

                              My brother is an A&E doctor and - despite having had far more vaccines than me throughout his life - wouldn’t touch the Covid vaccines with a bargepole. He’s witnessed a “crazy” (his words) increase in young previously healthy males turning up in his A&E dept in Scotland since covid vaccines were mandated.

                              It’s being more widely reported now, but the producers of the vaccines are still keen to quieten voices and slow to release data.

                              I’ve had 3 shots, but as an otherwise healthy 40 something year old am comfortable that the risk of covid was probably lower than the risk of an adverse reaction.
                              Maybe it was the Covid they had, not the tiny bit of Covid (the vaccine) maybe both had something that caused younger males and females to suffer more from heart issues and blood clots?

                              Maybe if everyone had been allowed to catch covid and not have a vaccine things would be far worse?

                              I expect the whole truth will come out one day?

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                              • #45
                                Re: Why are so many people dying young?

                                Not sure if 56 is young or not, but news just breaking that Sinead O’Connor has passed.

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