Kieffer Moore deal off...

[tomcat]

According to two ITK sources, the deal of a loan now and purchase in January won't be ratified by the EFL. If true then it's a shame as he'd be the missing link we're crying out for 😟

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

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According to two ITK sources, the deal of a loan now and purchase in January won't be ratified by the EFL. If true then it's a shame as he'd be the missing link we're crying out for ��

we're getting stitched up by the governing bodies nqat.

[tomcat]

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we're getting stitched up by the governing bodies nqat.

Spot on, we better get our skates on and get another striker in asap as we were confident he was lined up to join us🤦*♂️

[the other bob wilson]

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According to two ITK sources, the deal of a loan now and purchase in January won't be ratified by the EFL. If true then it's a shame as he'd be the missing link we're crying out for ��

Did the ITK sources or the EFL explain why we can’t loan someone and then sign them when the embargo ends or does it just apply to Keiffer? Seems odd we can’t do that when we had that deal with Kortrijk for Zohore when we were under an embargo in 2016 I think it was.

[The Hooded Claw]

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Surely we could just sign him on loan for 6 months and (officially) leave it at that?

[tomcat]

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Did the ITK sources or the EFL explain why we can’t loan someone and then sign them when the embargo ends or does it just apply to Keiffer? Seems odd we can’t do that when we had that deal with Kortrijk for Zohore when we were under an embargo in 2016 I think it was.

No idea, apparently they're offering him for sale on the open market. Maybe Dalman can schmooze somebody somewhere, stranger things have happened.

[cityhammer]

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No idea, apparently they're offering him for sale on the open market. Maybe Dalman can schmooze somebody somewhere, stranger things have happened.

Sale to Kortrijk and loan from them.

[Swbluebird]

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Surely we could just sign him on loan for 6 months and (officially) leave it at that?

I doubt Bournemouth would be happy with that, if they want to sell him then a loan with obligation to buy probably works for them, however if it's just a loan and he were to either get a serious injury or play poorly then we'd likely pull out of any deal, particularly given fee and wages would be high and they'd be left in limbo.

[ccfcwelshlad]

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I doubt Bournemouth would be happy with that, if they want to sell him then a loan with obligation to buy probably works for them, however if it's just a loan and he were to either get a serious injury or play poorly then we'd likely pull out of any deal, particularly given fee and wages would be high and they'd be left in limbo.

I'd question where could offer a gentleman's agreement to sign in January. Although not sure how well trusted we are these days.

If only Warnock was here... Could take him by his word.

[olderblue]

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Player power being what it is now, Kieffer Moore will only do what he wants to do.
He could sit on his backside until his contract expires and they get nothing from him, or for him.

They can’t sell him or loan him out to somewhere he doesn’t want to go to.

My guess is it will go down until the end of the transfer window before a decision is made, if there is an impasse currently.

[jon1959]

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According to two ITK sources, the deal of a loan now and purchase in January won't be ratified by the EFL. If true then it's a shame as he'd be the missing link we're crying out for ��

When 'loan to buy' for Moore was first mentioned as a possibility on this and other boards months ago it was rubbished as in breach of the EFL partial embargo. I can't remember where that came from (multiple sources - including WOL) but my understanding has been all summer that any move for Moore would be a straight loan or nothing. It has been clear for all that time too that Bournemouth want a fee if they can get one and that the odds of us getting Moore at the end of the window were slim. It would need Moore and his agent to manufacture a loan move - presumably rejecting any permanent transfer elsewhere - for that to happen. I can't see it.

Some fancy footwork involving a transfer to a certain Belgian club and loan to Cardiff may not be a breach of the rules (the letter if not the spirit). But I think it would take something like that to get Moore in.

[theclaw]

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Don’t they still owe us money?

[TheGoose]

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Don’t they still owe us money?

i'd have assumed so, but perhaps that is also in breach of the rules?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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When 'loan to buy' for Moore was first mentioned as a possibility on this and other boards months ago it was rubbished as in breach of the EFL partial embargo. I can't remember where that came from (multiple sources - including WOL) but my understanding has been all summer that any move for Moore would be a straight loan or nothing. It has been clear for all that time too that Bournemouth want a fee if they can get one and that the odds of us getting Moore at the end of the window were slim. It would need Moore and his agent to manufacture a loan move - presumably rejecting any permanent transfer elsewhere - for that to happen. I can't see it.

Some fancy footwork involving a transfer to a certain Belgian club and loan to Cardiff may not be a breach of the rules (the letter if not the spirit). But I think it would take something like that to get Moore in.

Suits Moore to go out on loan then he can get the transfer fee equivalent for himself, we would at least pay his wages for a year.

I'd agree they will have to do something last minute if he refuses to take a transfer.

[pipster]

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According to two ITK sources, the deal of a loan now and purchase in January won't be ratified by the EFL. If true then it's a shame as he'd be the missing link we're crying out for 😟

Looks like the deal is the deal and that's the deal - no half baked loan now until xmas - then loan again till 2025 etc.
The club know what it will take - and it seems we arent in any position to negotiate - cant blame Bournemouth - he'll get snapped up asap I would have thought.