The Last Ever Beatles Song

[splott parker]

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If that was the case, you need to be to everyone's taste, there would be nowhere close to any band who could be considered that.

So either there is none and there's no way to differentiate between the Beatles and a pub band, or there is. And it has to be the Beatles. There's no other band whose music has appeal to young children, teenagers, young adults, middle aged people, retired people, and so consistently over so many decades.

It is unique to The Beatles that at any family gathering, party, pub, works radio etc a Beatles song comes on and it seems that nigh on everyone is singing along, regardless of age. Some even unconsciously singing, they just know the words and can’t help themselves. No doubt The Fab Four are the greatest.

[caerkid]

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Isn't Lennon's voice largely computer generated? Not a fan of that at all

The original demo has been 'public' for quite a few years and the vocals are identical I'd say (but much cleaner obviously) :

https://youtu.be/zO3ox_DlAyE?feature=shared

It does depend on what you mean by 'computer generated' though. My understanding is that the AI that Peter Jackson's team use (MAL) is trained to recognise one part of a recording (developed to enhance/isolate background sounds for the Get Back documentary but now used to isolate Lennon's vocals from the demo) and it then 'recreates' those. It might be getting philosophical but is a perfect recreated copy the same thing as the original? Either way there is a fair amount of digital trickery going on but probably no more than what has always happened in musical studios.

Going back to the demo I think it's a slight shame that they lost the middle 8 ('I don't want to lose you') but the vocal isn't great on the tape for that section and McCartney probably doesn't have the range nowadays.

[B. Oddie]

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I found it very boring and a typical, middle of the road BBC Two song.

[Moodybluebird]

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The original demo has been 'public' for quite a few years and the vocals are identical I'd say (but much cleaner obviously) :

https://youtu.be/zO3ox_DlAyE?feature=shared

It does depend on what you mean by 'computer generated' though. My understanding is that the AI that Peter Jackson's team use (MAL) is trained to recognise one part of a recording (developed to enhance/isolate background sounds for the Get Back documentary but now used to isolate Lennon's vocals from the demo) and it then 'recreates' those. It might be getting philosophical but is a perfect recreated copy the same thing as the original? Either way there is a fair amount of digital trickery going on but probably no more than what has always happened in musical studios.

Going back to the demo I think it's a slight shame that they lost the middle 8 ('I don't want to lose you') but the vocal isn't great on the tape for that section and McCartney probably doesn't have the range nowadays.

Your last paragraph is interesting because while listening to the song for the first time the other day I was waiting for a middle 8 to take it in another direction but it never happened. Now I understand why. Thanks for that.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I found it very boring and a typical, middle of the road BBC Two song.

Yes that's what I thought

There was a load of fuss over the airwaves and on the TV and social media and I thought it was nondescript coffee table music

I thought that about the previous post beatles release too

It all seems completely pointless

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I found it very boring and a typical, middle of the road BBC Two song.

20mph dodderers music.

[fingers]

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can't comment on this Beatles track as its not my bag but hopefully the smiths don't go down this route


millions of dollars have been offered to the smiths to reform over the years and think it was the right decision not too although the band are more popular now more than ever !

there legacy still remains intact thankfully

I was devastated (until The Smiths came along) when Weller finished The Jam, couldn’t understand it. Of course, I get it now with his changing musical direction which he’d never do if he continued flogging the same horse. Similarly to The Smiths, Weller, Foxton and Buckler would make a fortune for some one-off gigs…I hope they don’t.

[Moodybluebird]

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Yes that's what I thought

There was a load of fuss over the airwaves and on the TV and social media and I thought it was nondescript coffee table music

I thought that about the previous post beatles release too

It all seems completely pointless

I think you're underestimating the influence and importance the Beatles have had over people's lives and continue to have. Just hearing Lennon's voice again is enough for many people to get dewy eyed, so judging the song to be good, bad or indifferent is missing the point.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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The original demo has been 'public' for quite a few years and the vocals are identical I'd say (but much cleaner obviously) :

https://youtu.be/zO3ox_DlAyE?feature=shared

It does depend on what you mean by 'computer generated' though. My understanding is that the AI that Peter Jackson's team use (MAL) is trained to recognise one part of a recording (developed to enhance/isolate background sounds for the Get Back documentary but now used to isolate Lennon's vocals from the demo) and it then 'recreates' those. It might be getting philosophical but is a perfect recreated copy the same thing as the original? Either way there is a fair amount of digital trickery going on but probably no more than what has always happened in musical studios.

I saw somewhere a comment or quote that the process is a bit like taking a cake and ending up with separate portions of flour, eggs, sugar, butter and milk.

I mentioned the Revolver album, which was deconstructed using AI and then remixed using all of the separate band parts. I've heard bits that I've never heard in the original, but gone back and realised they were there. The scope this AI separation has is immense and it's just another trick available in the recording world. I wonder what will be next, as I find things like this quite exciting.

[the other bob wilson]

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20mph dodderers music.

Fish not biting today it seems.

[dandywarhol]

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This could be off a Sean lennon album.Track 9.
I just listened to a Lou Reed interview from 82.He basically said the British invasion was crap and the only two bands that mattered to him were The Stones and The Kinks.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Fish not biting today it seems.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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This could be off a Sean lennon album.Track 9.
I just listened to a Lou Reed interview from 82.He basically said the British invasion was crap and the only two bands that mattered to him were The Stones and The Kinks.

I certainly agree it's a moribund song

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I think you're underestimating the influence and importance the Beatles have had over people's lives and continue to have. Just hearing Lennon's voice again is enough for many people to get dewy eyed, so judging the song to be good, bad or indifferent is missing the point.

Bigger than Jesus

[NYCBlue]

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can't comment on this Beatles track as its not my bag but hopefully the smiths don't go down this route


millions of dollars have been offered to the smiths to reform over the years and think it was the right decision not too although the band are more popular now more than ever !

there legacy still remains intact thankfully

I don't think Johnny Marr would do it now that Andy Rourke is gone. Not that he was that interested in the first place.