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  1. #126

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Yeah but she's not promoting the EDL or football hooligans, you've inferred that, rather bizarrely. Whatever else she is, she doesn't strike me as someone who would have a laissez faire approach to a bunch of lads in stone island chucking chairs about on the High Streets of Stoke or Burnley.
    You don’t think? Who’s going to do her dirty work this weekend, Fulham?

  2. #127

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    You don’t think? Who’s going to do her dirty work this weekend, Fulham?
    https://youtu.be/IBCYbZVoPR0?si=7wFnOuW2sLHozHdE

    He's on the case

    Well sort of as he's living in Thailand so he's sorry to let the side down as he's busy on his sun lounger

  3. #128

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    https://youtu.be/IBCYbZVoPR0?si=7wFnOuW2sLHozHdE

    He's on the case

    Well sort of as he's living in Thailand so he's sorry to let the side down as he's busy on his sun lounger
    Here is Marriner showing his respect for the victims of the Second World War and Jewish Solidarity.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1060856.stm

    Marriner was also seen boasting about a trip that he made with Frain to Auschwitz, and how he had reduced a Polish visitor to tears after climbing into one of the gas chambers.

  4. #129

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Here is Marriner showing his respect for the victims of the Second World War and Jewish Solidarity.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1060856.stm

    Marriner was also seen boasting about a trip that he made with Frain to Auschwitz, and how he had reduced a Polish visitor to tears after climbing into one of the gas chambers.
    It's touching

  5. #130

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    National Front marching to the Cenotaph on Sunday.

    https://northeastbylines.co.uk/natio...brance-sunday/

  6. #131

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    Why are you guys talking about some random blokes who have only been mentioned by yourselves and citing articles from nearly a quarter of a century ago, and using that as evidence of problems, yet silent on the Palestine Liberation Campaign in Manchester calling the terrorists freedom fighters:

    "Palestinian freedom fighters from besieged Gaza broke Zionist colonial barriers and entered settlements built on stolen Palestinian land inside ‘48 Palestine.”

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...chester-branch

  7. #132

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Why are you guys talking about some random blokes who have only been mentioned by yourselves and citing articles from nearly a quarter of a century ago, and using that as evidence of problems, yet silent on the Palestine Liberation Campaign in Manchester calling the terrorists freedom fighters:

    "Palestinian freedom fighters from besieged Gaza broke Zionist colonial barriers and entered settlements built on stolen Palestinian land inside ‘48 Palestine.”

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...chester-branch
    Marriner posted his call to arms two days ago

  8. #133

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    Downing Street has confirmed ss bravermans article in the Times was NOT cleared before publication

    Ooops !

  9. #134

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Downing Street has confirmed ss bravermans article in the Times was NOT cleared before publication

    Ooops !
    BBC News - Rishi Sunak did not clear Suella Braverman's attack on police over protests
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67368785

    She's an absolute fruit cake

    God bless her

  10. #135

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    BBC News - Rishi Sunak did not clear Suella Braverman's attack on police over protests
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67368785

    She's an absolute fruit cake

    God bless her
    I didn’t believe it at first, but I do now - she’s trying to get the sack.

  11. #136

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I didn’t believe it at first, but I do now - she’s trying to get the sack.
    I am in two minds about her

    She's a very un hinged and dangerous woman

    But even moderate Tories are thinking this nutcase is slashing our vote !

    Carry on or cash in ?

  12. #137

    Re: Suella Da Ville Can't Help Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Why are you guys talking about some random blokes who have only been mentioned by yourselves and citing articles from nearly a quarter of a century ago, and using that as evidence of problems, yet silent on the Palestine Liberation Campaign in Manchester calling the terrorists freedom fighters:

    "Palestinian freedom fighters from besieged Gaza broke Zionist colonial barriers and entered settlements built on stolen Palestinian land inside ‘48 Palestine.”

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...chester-branch
    All the power of search engines at your disposal and the best you could come up with is the Palestine Solidarity (not Liberation) Campaign rightly suspending 4 executive members for their unacceptable portrayal of Hamas's murderous acts in Southern Israel as some kind of rationalisation of Braverman's self projecting and divisive acts?

  13. #138

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    All the power of search engines at your disposal and the best you could come up with is the Palestine Solidarity (not Liberation) Campaign rightly suspending 4 executive members for their unacceptable portrayal of Hamas's murderous acts in Southern Israel as some kind of rationalisation of Braverman's self projecting and divisive acts?
    No that's just one example. There's multiple arrests, calls for Jihad, huge rises in hate crimes, vandalism, graffiti, antisemitism, homophobia, arrests for promotion of terrorism, smashed windows, red paint thrown at Jewish schools, security guards outside the same schools, elderly poppy sellers assaulted, graffiti scrawled on cenotaphs, mass xenophobia against Israel, ripping down posters etc.

    Which you say nothing about. Then you post an article from a quarter of a century ago about a bloke no one has heard of in relation to something the home secretary didn't say and somehow that's similar.

    Ive always said, the vast majority are peaceful and most no doubt do want peace, but not everyone there does, and calling it out more would only help the protests.

    I just don't get why people would choose to ignore these things on our own streets that are making some of our own citizens fearful? This shit matters. It isn't good. How many more warnings do you need?

    And in response an article from 23 years ago about some random football hooligan!!

  14. #139

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No that's just one example. There's multiple arrests, calls for Jihad, huge rises in hate crimes, vandalism, graffiti, antisemitism, homophobia, arrests for promotion of terrorism, smashed windows, red paint thrown at Jewish schools, security guards outside the same schools, elderly poppy sellers assaulted, graffiti scrawled on cenotaphs, mass xenophobia against Israel, ripping down posters etc.

    Which you say nothing about. Then you post an article from a quarter of a century ago about a bloke no one has heard of in relation to something the home secretary didn't say and somehow that's similar.

    Ive always said, the vast majority are peaceful and most no doubt do want peace, but not everyone there does, and calling it out more would only help the protests.

    I just don't get why people would choose to ignore these things on our own streets that are making some of our own citizens fearful? This shit matters. It isn't good. How many more warnings do you need?

    And in response an article from 23 years ago about some random football hooligan!!
    Jeez, if you don't think calling out the hypocrisy of Marriner after Sludge posted his call to arms as worthy of comment given the proposed counter demonstration then perhaps Bob has a point when he talks about libertarians defining what is and isn't liberty.

    I find most of the things you mention distasteful (not sure what you mean by mass Xenophobia against Israel) but despite your best efforts to parrot Braverman's views as these London marches being a mob with distasteful stickers and songs, it is nevertheless the case that they have been overwhelmingly peaceful. Rhetoric is running ahead of reality.

  15. #140

    Re: Suella Da Ville Can't Help Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No that's just one example. There's multiple arrests, calls for Jihad, huge rises in hate crimes, vandalism, graffiti, antisemitism, homophobia, arrests for promotion of terrorism, smashed windows, red paint thrown at Jewish schools, security guards outside the same schools, elderly poppy sellers assaulted, graffiti scrawled on cenotaphs, mass xenophobia against Israel, ripping down posters etc.

    Which you say nothing about. Then you post an article from a quarter of a century ago about a bloke no one has heard of in relation to something the home secretary didn't say and somehow that's similar.

    Ive always said, the vast majority are peaceful and most no doubt do want peace, but not everyone there does, and calling it out more would only help the protests.

    I just don't get why people would choose to ignore these things on our own streets that are making some of our own citizens fearful? This shit matters. It isn't good. How many more warnings do you need?

    And in response an article from 23 years ago about some random football hooligan!!
    So 1 assault of a 78 year old poppy seller is your idea of society falling apart

    There have always been tensions between a minority of people of Jewish and Arab descent in this country and its no surprise that at times of war this tension increases and sometimes boils over

    Who are you in your white Palace to tell others that they are ignoring these incidents ?

    Vandalism , graffiti.....same thing

    Anti semitism , hate crimes , homophobia....same thing

    Graffiti ...yep you have mentioned that

    Xenophobia , hate crime .....yes James we have had that , you are repeating ad nauseum here , you are getting too excited

    Are you looking for a job in journalism ? Specially a right wing newspaper ?

    Because all your spouting is very very biased and I know I am not the only one who thinks so

  16. #141

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    I didn’t think you could get worse than Priti Patel, but this evil bitch is much worse.

    It’s so weird how the two of them descend from immigrants, but hate immigrants.

  17. #142

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    I didn’t think you could get worse than Priti Patel, but this evil bitch is much worse.

    It’s so weird how the two of them descend from immigrants, but hate immigrants.
    Both shocking women

    Both big Thatcher fans

    There's a surprise

  18. #143

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    Talking of the police..

    In Greenwich they recently determined a video that was circulating of a speech an Imams speech at a local mosque from 20 Oct (2 weeks after the massacre did NOT break hate crime laws.

    His words:

    Shakir prayed that Allah would grant “victory over the enemy,” asked his congregation to “curse the infidels”, “destroy their homes” and “purify Al Aqsa” of Jews.

    How the hell does making a religious speech calling for the purification of a holy place of Jews? Absolute joke what is going on. How can people not see how scary this is for many people?

    https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/no-offe...london-mosque/

  19. #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    So 1 assault of a 78 year old poppy seller is your idea of society falling apart

    There have always been tensions between a minority of people of Jewish and Arab descent in this country and its no surprise that at times of war this tension increases and sometimes boils over

    Who are you in your white Palace to tell others that they are ignoring these incidents ?

    Vandalism , graffiti.....same thing

    Anti semitism , hate crimes , homophobia....same thing

    Graffiti ...yep you have mentioned that

    Xenophobia , hate crime .....yes James we have had that , you are repeating ad nauseum here , you are getting too excited

    Are you looking for a job in journalism ? Specially a right wing newspaper ?

    Because all your spouting is very very biased and I know I am not the only one who thinks so
    Come on now , out of the cellar

  20. #145

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Talking of the police..

    In Greenwich they recently determined a video that was circulating of a speech an Imams speech at a local mosque from 20 Oct (2 weeks after the massacre did NOT break hate crime laws.

    His words:

    Shakir prayed that Allah would grant “victory over the enemy,” asked his congregation to “curse the infidels”, “destroy their homes” and “purify Al Aqsa” of Jews.

    How the hell does making a religious speech calling for the purification of a holy place of Jews? Absolute joke what is going on. How can people not see how scary this is for many people?

    https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/no-offe...london-mosque/
    Do you think it's a conspiracy against Israel ?

    The police have operational independence and this is vital to our democracy

    Who said this less than 6 moths ago ?

  21. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Do you think it's a conspiracy against Israel ?

    The police have operational independence and this is vital to our democracy

    Who said this less than 6 moths ago ?
    No, of course not. I do suspect that the whole identity politics issue has tampered with some parts of policing and law enforcement though.

    Remember this case when people were arrested for chanting 'fk the jews, rape their daughters' whilst waving Palestinian flags from their cars. All charges were dropped. That's plainly, undeniably antisemitic so it does make me wonder what is considered such on the marches etc.

    It's not right, is it? It may make people question whether everyone is treated the same?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ed-cars-london

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-F-Jews.html

  22. #147

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    No, of course not. I do suspect that the whole identity politics issue has tampered with some parts of policing and law enforcement though.

    Remember this case when people were arrested for chanting 'fk the jews, rape their daughters' whilst waving Palestinian flags from their cars. All charges were dropped. That's plainly, undeniably antisemitic so it does make me wonder what is considered such on the marches etc.

    It's not right, is it? It may make people question whether everyone is treated the same?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ed-cars-london

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-F-Jews.html
    If the crown prosecution service do not think there is a realistic chance of conviction then as in this case they advise the police not to press charges

    Do you want the mob on the street to serve out justice ?

    It was Suella Braverman by the way

  23. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    If the crown prosecution service do not think there is a realistic chance of conviction then as in this case they advise the police not to press charges

    Do you want the mob on the street to serve out justice ?

    It was Suella Braverman by the way
    You are missing my point. I'm saying, that if chanting '"fk the jews, rape their daughters'" is not chargeable, then it completely undermines what else is not deemed as such.

    It's plainly racist don't you think? Does it not worry you?

  24. #149

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    I didn’t think you could get worse than Priti Patel, but this evil bitch is much worse.

    It’s so weird how the two of them descend from immigrants, but hate immigrants.
    There’s nothing more vile than betraying your background to be other people’s useful idiots.

  25. #150

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    There’s nothing more vile than betraying your background to be other people’s useful idiots.
    You saying her views should be entirely predetermined by things beyond her control like her skin colour? Surely they can think what they like can't they, or is that a luxury you would only afford to some?

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