Club suing Willie McKay

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Re: Club suing Willie McKay

I always thought that it was ruled that sala was our player and we had to pay Nantes for him. Suing McKay is a separate issue, nothing to do with the transfer fee. I can't ever recall anyone supporting Mckay, which is what this litigation is about. Fans who said that the club should pay up were right, because the club did.

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Re: Club suing Willie McKay

I always thought that it was ruled that sala was our player and we had to pay Nantes for him. Suing McKay is a separate issue, nothing to do with the transfer fee. I can't ever recall anyone supporting Mckay, which is what this litigation is about. Fans who said that the club should pay up were right, because the club did.

Well how come there was no payment made by the PFA because he "wasn't our player because the registration wasn't completed" ?

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Well how come there was no payment made by the PFA because he "wasn't our player because the registration wasn't completed" ?

Don't know, but the club paid the transfer fee, after appealing it as well.

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Well how come there was no payment made by the PFA because he "wasn't our player because the registration wasn't completed" ?

Let’s hope that the club never parade a ’potential’ signing in City kit alongside Ken Choo until all relevant paperwork has been completed. It was a bit ‘Here’s our new signing’ when he was alive becoming ‘He’s definitely not our player’ a few days later after the tragedy.

[PontBlue]

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I always thought that it was ruled that sala was our player and we had to pay Nantes for him.

What this episode has shown is that Fifa needs to get a grip of transfers and put rules in place. You have some organisations saying he's our player and others saying he isn't. The whole situation is a mess

[light up the darkness]

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Nobody and neither club have come out of this with any credit.

Having said that it appears at the moment that Tan has been correct in his pursuit of legal actions and recourse to the legal system outside of the football system

[Ninian1962]

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How the worm has turned with this one

Many using this as a stick to beat the club with because of their irrational loathing on Tan.

Cries of “just pay them!” have gone down to next to none.

Hope we get everything we deserve

Interesting to note that, between them, the three recent Trust posts about the current state of the legal claim against FC Nantes, the action to reclaim documents and data from Mckay and the contribution to the Sala family trust fund have now received almost 150k views on Twitter (I still cant bring myself to call it X).
Hopefully ,they will indicate to people how the Trust gets involved in important football issues as they impact on our club and encourage more fans to sign up for Trust membership.
Keith

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Agreed and hopefully all the people who derided the clubs position on this will then stand up and apologise to Tan and the club for the disgraceful way they behaved over a matter where it has become obvious that the real villainy lies elsewhere.

Agreed, easy to say pay it when it's not their money!

[North Cardiff Blue]

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What this episode has shown is that Fifa needs to get a grip of transfers and put rules in place. You have some organisations saying he's our player and others saying he isn't. The whole situation is a mess

There are rules in place I think, it's just some clubs jump the gun, like saying look at my new house just before completion. They are just trying to time things to make the fans happy.

[PontBlue]

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There are rules in place I think, it's just some clubs jump the gun, like saying look at my new house just before completion. They are just trying to time things to make the fans happy.

I understand where you are coming from regarding clubs announcing signings before pen is put to paper but this situation appears to have some organisations saying the transfer is complete and others saying it isn't, possibly due to an issue with a piece of paperwork.

What this show is there aren't clear rules in place that all stakeholders must adhere to which is allowing some to wriggle out of responsibilities and allowing lawyers to coin it in.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I understand where you are coming from regarding clubs announcing signings before pen is put to paper but this situation appears to have some organisations saying the transfer is complete and others saying it isn't, possibly due to an issue with a piece of paperwork.

What this show is there aren't clear rules in place that all stakeholders must adhere to which is allowing some to wriggle out of responsibilities and allowing lawyers to coin it in.

Good point that makes sense, on reflection I agree

It should be hard and fast and paperwork, insurance everything completed before announced, although transfer deadline day would become boring

[Ninian1962]

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https://x.com/stevecmb/status/174161...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

Not only did Nantes decline to contribute to the trust fund, neither did the myriad of agents involved in the deal who received their fees. Also the PFA did not make a death in service payment to the family as they did not recognise him as our player as registration not completed

Another matter hardly reported at all in the UK is the fact that the FC Nantes President and his director son were both detained by the French criminal authorities at the end of June 2023 as part of their investigations into various offences including the illegal use of agents in transfers, money laundering and tax evasion.

[G rangetown Blue]

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I’ve visited Nantes games a few times since the tragedy, and nobody has ever suggested Cardiff are to blame for any of this, and the fans place all the blame on their dodgy owner (Kita), who “sold Emi like a dog”.

[Enoch Mort]

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More info from the Trust on the Sala Litigation sent to Trust members today

FC Nantes Indicted Over Use of Unauthorised Agents

Dear Member

As you know the way the transfer of Emiliano Sala from Nantes has been shrouded in controversy which includes a focus on the agent used by the French club.

The French media has been reporting recently about the use of unauthorised agents at Nantes.

Please find below a statement from Trust chair Keith Morgan.



FC Nantes Indicted Over Use of Unauthorised Agents


The Trust recently reported on the legal battles between Cardiff City and FC Nantes in the wake of the transfer of Emiliano Sala five years ago this month.

Emiliano Sala tragically died after the light aircraft he was travelling in crashed on its way to Cardiff.

We wanted to make members aware that, according to the French media, Nantes is involved in another significant legal case in its own country (criminal rather than civil) and have been formally accused of using unauthorised players' agents.

The renowned French newspaper, L'Equipe reported on the issue on November 24, 2023.

The translated report said that FC Nantes has been indicted due to its ongoing relationship with unauthorised agents, including Bakari Sanogo, in particular: "that the managers of the Nantes football club have had recourse on a recurring basis, at least since 2015, to the employment of unauthorised sports agents, by establishing sports agent contracts and player employment contracts under the cover of nominees, both in the context of player transfer negotiations and in the context of negotiations of player contracts."

I understand that Sanogo had involvement in the Sala transfer, alongside Willie McKay and his son, Mark McKay.

Back in June there were arrests in France of Sanogo, another agent Joaquim Batica and the club president Waldemar Kita and his son, Franck as part of an investigation opened by the Rennes' Specialised Interregional Court.

We'll keep members posted when we hear more from across the Channel.

Keith Morgan

Chair

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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13056388/emiliano-sala-cardiff-city-suing-football-agent-willie-mckay-five-years-after-plane-disaster