Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

[PontBlue]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

This feels like a toxic mix of frustration, naivety and gamesmanship from both Bulut and the board.

My view a few months back was that the jury should still be out on Bulut. I think that is still the position.

He seems to be more of a real manager than many of our recent team bosses - but the scorecard is mixed.

He has overperformed up to the beginning of December. Since then it has been the opposite.

Has he impressed with team selection, match tactics or substitutions? Mixed picture.

Has he improved players through his coaching team? Not much evidence of that.

Has he led the club, provided a vision and direction for the team, and created a relationship with the fans? Again a mixed picture. He does appear to over promise and under deliver, but that is part of the ‘honesty’ that excites WOL so much.

Has he brought through u21s? He has said the right things and put some of them on the bench but not gone the next step. Disappointing!

Has he been a success with transfers in/out and team building. Not yet - but probably not his fault.

No reason for knee jerk optimism about a play off push and no real danger of relegation (not yet anyway) and for me that represents progress.

Still work in progress. Some good, some bad. May turn out to be our best manager for 40:years. Could be a Turkey!

I'm starting to think our good start to the season was down to Ramsey making everyone around him look better and that gave the players confidence. Then when Ramsey got injured that confidence the other players had sustained us for a while. Then Bulut started favouring Runarson over Alnwick and things took a dive from then on.

I don't think Bulut is the right person to make the current crop of players and team's patterns of play better. Worringly the usual suspects of potential replacements are, in the main, worse.

[Baloo]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

A bit disappointing for me. He seems to be distancing himself from the performance of the team for reputation management reasons. At least that’s how it comes across to me, even if he has some valid complaints.

He may well have expected to bring in players, but he’s said himself we can’t compete with other clubs for some of this targets. So we’ll have to be more canny in the transfer market and not unrealistic.

I’m not sure what this type of language is doing to the spirit of a team already low in confidence, but deteriorating performances suggest not much.

[J R Hartley]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

Give him money to sign Moore and a genuine goalscorer

We don't have a forward line of any note, Robinson , etete , etc all need to be moved on

Sign a couple of decent midfielders and forget about Ramsey and odowda coming back to save our arses , I just can't see much happening from them this season and Ramsey will probably quit in the summer

The pressure off rails wintle etc to hold the Fort will allow us to play with a bit of confidence

I don't blame bulut aside a few decisions the prime one signing the arsenal keeper disaster

Are you stupid or just plain ignorant? There is no money and weve got your messiah Colin to thank for that.

If Bulut is not up for the challenge of working with what he’s got and improving players then get someone in who’s up for it.

All this pissing and whinging in public isn’t doing himself any favours. Like a btec Conte.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

This feels like a toxic mix of frustration, naivety and gamesmanship from both Bulut and the board.

My view a few months back was that the jury should still be out on Bulut. I think that is still the position.

He seems to be more of a real manager than many of our recent team bosses - but the scorecard is mixed.

He has overperformed up to the beginning of December. Since then it has been the opposite.

Has he impressed with team selection, match tactics or substitutions? Mixed picture.

Has he improved players through his coaching team? Not much evidence of that.

Has he led the club, provided a vision and direction for the team, and created a relationship with the fans? Again a mixed picture. He does appear to over promise and under deliver, but that is part of the ‘honesty’ that excites WOL so much.

Has he brought through u21s? He has said the right things and put some of them on the bench but not gone the next step. Disappointing!

Has he been a success with transfers in/out and team building. Not yet - but probably not his fault.

No reason for knee jerk optimism about a play off push and no real danger of relegation (not yet anyway) and for me that represents progress.

Still work in progress. Some good, some bad. May turn out to be our best manager for 40:years. Could be a Turkey!

Great post, totally agree with this. Then the question is, is it the right time and is he the right manager to hand a bunch of money to sign the kind of players he wants to get in, with the knowledge it could all go pear shaped on either side before the end of the year and we are left in another Solskjaer situation where we end up paying them to go away. I'm not sure it is, but you can understand why Bulut is frustrated as well.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

Tan is still focused upon going after money for the Sala loss. He probably isn’t that bothered about Erol Bulut and the manager’s position at the moment.

Any evidence for this wild statement

[pipster]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

Surprised Sludgey hasn’t blamed the situation on thatcher yet!! Or maybe it’s as a direct consequence not enough council housing and obviously brexit

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

I'm starting to think our good start to the season was down to Ramsey making everyone around him look better and that gave the players confidence. Then when Ramsey got injured that confidence the other players had sustained us for a while. Then Bulut started favouring Runarson over Alnwick and things took a dive from then on.

I don't think Bulut is the right person to make the current crop of players and team's patterns of play better. Worringly the usual suspects of potential replacements are, in the main, worse.

I literally thought the same thing while we were having lunch.

Some managers inspire and some give confidence. Bulut clearly isn't inspiring or giving his players confidence.

[City123]

Re: Bulut’s post match interview on Radio Wales.

...yes..and one has to ask why.....yes the higher profile clubs come calling, but we should recognise he potential and tie them in.

There's not a great deal we can do to stop them going though. Would you turn down Manchester United or Leeds as a teenager? The money alone would be enough for most of us, nevermind the access to better facilities/coaches etc

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Bulut’s post match interview on Radio Wales.

We finally got a Manager after Harris, McCarthy, Morrison, and Hudson and we've no money left to back him, Tan's biggest mistake is trying to run the club without a Manager, this is where you end up!

It sounds like Bulut has been promised players and we've failed to land one!

[PhyllisStant]

Re: Erol Bulut to consider his future after sending strong message to the board

I'm starting to think our good start to the season was down to Ramsey making everyone around him look better and that gave the players confidence. Then when Ramsey got injured that confidence the other players had sustained us for a while. Then Bulut started favouring Runarson over Alnwick and things took a dive from then on.

I don't think Bulut is the right person to make the current crop of players and team's patterns of play better. Worringly the usual suspects of potential replacements are, in the main, worse.

Exactly my thoughts. People often say football is a confidence game and losing Rambo and having a run of bad results has totally drained us,

I think also having a paper thin squad and no being able to rest or rotate anyone when they might have a niggle/ dip in form is a killer too.

We've see what can be done with some options so it is a board issue currently rather than a managerial one I think

[LA Bluebird]

Re: Bulut’s post match interview on Radio Wales.

There's not a great deal we can do to stop them going though. Would you turn down Manchester United or Leeds as a teenager? The money alone would be enough for most of us, nevermind the access to better facilities/coaches etc

The teams who have been successful hanging onto young players when bigger teams come calling are the ones who show a clear pathway to first team football though. If you were a good young player and looked at the last 10 years would you stay at City... even this season when he's tried to get shot of players like Sawyers and Rino, had no interest even from leagues below and then continues to involve them in the squad and starting lineup over youngsters like King, Joel Colwill and Ashford. We don't help ourselves with this.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Bulut’s post match interview on Radio Wales.

The teams who have been successful hanging onto young players when bigger teams come calling are the ones who show a clear pathway to first team football though. If you were a good young player and looked at the last 10 years would you stay at City... even this season when he's tried to get shot of players like Sawyers and Rino, had no interest even from leagues below and then continues to involve them in the squad and starting lineup over youngsters like King, Joel Colwill and Ashford. We don't help ourselves with this.

Southampton are losing their best players. Sunderland, too. They've got great academies and blood their players. That's not to say we can't improve, we definitely can but we are helpless when PL clubs come knocking.

[Maurice Swan]

Re: Bulut’s post match interview on Radio Wales.

Southampton are losing their best players. Sunderland, too. They've got great academies and blood their players. That's not to say we can't improve, we definitely can but we are helpless when PL clubs come knocking.

Agree entirely. If they ARE free to move to a bigger club they would be very unlikely to get first team football for quite a while unless they were really exceptional (small fish in a big pond...). At teams like ours they SHOULD be able to see their way into the first team with consistent if not outstanding performances. Sadly that has not been the case for some time.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Bulut’s post match interview on Radio Wales.

Southampton are losing their best players. Sunderland, too. They've got great academies and blood their players. That's not to say we can't improve, we definitely can but we are helpless when PL clubs come knocking.

Premier League sides are interested in City players who are about to be considered for Academy contracts at the age of 16, but when is the last time we had interest in a home produced player older than that from bigger clubs? The reason for this is that we’re so useless at bringing on talent once they get into their late teens and beyond.

Having watched all of the home games the under 21s have played this season and what he has done when he’s come on in Cup games for the first team, I really don’t know what more Joel Colwill can do to show he is ready for exposure to Championship football. One thing Rinomhotagives us is more mobility and stamina in central midfield, but Colwill can do that while offering more of a goal threat. However, it’s obvious that Bulut is not going to use him or Ashford in the first team in a league game - for Bulut you could read the same for the large majority of recent managers, is it any wonder our Academy has, largely been a waste of space in the last decade?

[llan bluebird]

Re: Bulut’s post match interview on Radio Wales.

I don't think Bulut is angling for a pay off, it will consist of a might four months.

I do believe the Conte reference may be slightly relevant. Bulut hasn't been brought up in the English management system, he is used to the head coach role. Conte couldn't handle that he had to speak for the club whereas on the continent the Sporting Director or similar spoke for the transfer strategy or status. Conte lost it and said "ask Levy" one time as if WTF has that got to do with me.

Where are Choo or Dalman, we rarely hear from the owner but one of those needs to stand up. It's a very lonely place at the moment for EB.

The truth is all of little ole Plymouths front line was significantly better than ours and that's not EB fault.