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  • #76
    Re: Marcus Rashford

    Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Whats that got to do with gammon on this thread strawman?
    Footballers are perceived to have a privileged life, and they almost always receive universal condemnation in cases like this, so I was just wondering if there are any exceptions to the rule. Name some players who have been praised by their fans for getting pissed and missing matches, because I can't think of any at the moment.

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    • #77
      Re: Marcus Rashford

      Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
      Nothing like a young, succesful black man to get the gammons going. The smell of bacon is strong on this thread.
      :hehe: you?

      You're the only one angry :hehe:

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      • #78
        Re: Marcus Rashford

        [QUOTE=J R Hartley;5485888]Whats that got to do with gammon on this thread strawman?[/QUOTE

        I reckon at least 50% of your posts are unpleasant. How do you do it ?

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        • #79
          Re: Marcus Rashford

          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
          Footballers are perceived to have a privileged life, and they almost always receive universal condemnation in cases like this, so I was just wondering if there are any exceptions to the rule. Name some players who have been praised by their fans for getting pissed and missing matches, because I can't think of any at the moment.
          So every single famous person who has an MBE, who has had the tiniest of indiscretions, has faced calls for them to be stripped of their MBE? Yeah rightio. :hehe:

          Hes rang in sick for training after having one too many the night before and missing his flight home ffs. Hardly crime of the century. :hehe:

          Its hardly noncing sex trafficked teenafgers now is it? I dont see the same energy to chastise someone like Prince Andrew from some of the gammons on this thread but god forbide a black man with a nice lifestyle calls in sick. Lets be fair. :hehe:

          I dont see calls from the Gammon & Monkfish to strip Michelle Mone of her peerage. :Hmm:

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          • #80
            Re: Marcus Rashford

            Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post

            I reckon at least 50% of your posts are unpleasant. How do you do it ?
            Quite easily when responding to gammons like you

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            • #81
              Re: Marcus Rashford

              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
              Well, he did alright with his after dinner speeches and ' Audience With' for years on end, crammed to the hilt with Blokes who loved those old pissed up stories regurgitated by Georgie Boy.
              One of the few times I saw my father pissed off/upset about a football player was when he saw Best on Wogan make a complete arse of himself.

              His reasoning being he was being taken the piss out of and they were making his alcoholism worse.

              He was right.

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              • #82
                Re: Marcus Rashford

                Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                Footballers are perceived to have a privileged life, and they almost always receive universal condemnation in cases like this, so I was just wondering if there are any exceptions to the rule. Name some players who have been praised by their fans for getting pissed and missing matches, because I can't think of any at the moment.
                And for a specific example Jack Grealish aka Jack the Lad as christined by the media. The press were loving his boozy celebrations last summer. Didnt see the same energy for him that we are now seeing for Rashford. It might have been the end of Man Citys season but he still had England duty to turn up to and he got subsequently dropped by Southgate because he turned up still half cut.

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                • #83
                  Re: Marcus Rashford

                  Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                  One of the few times I saw my father pissed off/upset about a football player was when he saw Best on Wogan make a complete arse of himself.

                  His reasoning being he was being taken the piss out of and they were making his alcoholism worse.

                  He was right.
                  Same happened with Gascoigne.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Marcus Rashford

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    And Georgie boy was celebrated for his drinking, shagging, not turning up etc.
                    Everybody likes to think that Bestie was Jack the lad, but there was a sadness among those who played with him. I've heard stories about how great he was on the pitch, and the stuff he used to do in training, but ultimately it is a story about wasted talent and letting other people down.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Marcus Rashford

                      Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                      And for a specific example Jack Grealish aka Jack the Lad, the press were loving his boozy celebrations last summer. Didnt see the same energy for him and it might have been the end of Man Citys season but he still had England duty to turn up to.
                      Yup, it was mildly discussed as being slightly unwise. Imagine if that had been raheem Sterling.....

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                      • #86
                        Re: Marcus Rashford

                        Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                        And for a specific example Jack Grealish aka Jack the Lad as christined by the media. The press were loving his boozy celebrations last summer. Didnt see the same energy for him that we are now seeing for Rashford. It might have been the end of Man Citys season but he still had England duty to turn up to and he got subsequently dropped by Southgate because he turned up still half cut.
                        Yeah, but who was praising him for that?

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                        • #87
                          Re: Marcus Rashford

                          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                          Everybody likes to think that Bestie was Jack the lad, but there was a sadness among those who played with him. I've heard stories about how great he was on the pitch, and the stuff he used to do in training, but ultimately it is a story about wasted talent and letting other people down.
                          Yup, i'd agree entirely, very sad. He was used and spat out when there was nothing left for him to do. The point i was making is that plenty of football fans have immortalised Best, and giggled away at his drunken behaviour, celebrated on TV in the 80s and 90s etc. It's cultural, and Best's culture was white working class (the lowest kind), shagging, pissed up etc. ou know as well as i do that plenty of blokes have been back slapped by their peers for that type of behaviour. Rashford gets involved, different story, because different culture.

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                          • #88
                            Re: Marcus Rashford

                            Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                            Same happened with Gascoigne.
                            Yes.

                            I think both suffered from a lack of care once their careers finished.

                            Probably lack of care during too.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Marcus Rashford

                              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                              Yup, it was mildly discussed as being slightly unwise.
                              Grealish is hardly the most popular player in Britain, and there was a time when everybody hated him. It took a few stories about his good deeds to help redeem his character.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Marcus Rashford

                                Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                                Yes.

                                I think both suffered from a lack of care once their careers finished.
                                During their careers as well. Remember when Gascoigne was wearing fake tits, pissed up and ticking like a mule on acid. 'We' all laughed. Football shit on him and so did the media. He probably didn't have any support.

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