Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
You are old enough to remember surely - John Major's Govt where he couldnt make a decision, Kinnock think he had already won - then he lost, then Major continued and more in fighting etc, you are old enough to remember the BS from Blair / Brown / Mandelson - the illegal war in Iraq, a massive 6 billion NHS spend on an IT project that did not deliver, cash for passports, Geoff Hoon doing private side gigs when at the MOD etc, and hundreds of other things, then Clegg having to eat humble pie after promising to scrap tuition fees - then realising when he became dep PM - it couldnt be done etc.
Today is no different - we had 13 years of Labour and weve had 13 years ish of conservative. Compare that to Wales where we have had 26 years of Labour - which scenario would you rather ?
What point are you trying to make or are you just being contrary for the sake of it? I’m saying that this Conservative Government is close to being exceptional because it’s been so shambolic and no matter how much I dislike the party, I wouldn’t ever have called the Heath, Thatcher and Cameron Governments shambolic - Major’s was to an extent, but apart from the lunatic Redwood, the rebels Major had to face were nowhere near as senior as the ones May and Sunak have had to.

All your, obligatory, dissing of the Labour Party does is back up what I said about them not having the discipline and unity of purpose that the Tories used to have.

I swear you and a few others on here see my name on a post and just assume that I must be slagging off the Tories - this time, all I was doing was expressing surprise at what they’ve become. Therefore, unless you’re disagreeing with me because you believe the Conservatives have always been the fractured, self indulgent mess they are now, I’m not sure why you bothered replying.

As for what’s worse, fourteen years of the same governing party in Westminster or twenty six years of the same one in Cardiff, I’d say the former every time because it has far more influence on my living conditions.