FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Neither are Wintle (one good game v Ipswich in how long?) nor Etete

I like how Wintle's supporters (a dying breed) say that he... "Does a lot of the unseen donkey work".

Yeah, right!

[olderblue]

Bit of a long shot for Bulut, playing a CRFC novice but, hey ho, let’s give it a go.

I like how Wintle's supporters (a dying breed) say that he... "Does a lot of the unseen donkey work".

Yeah, right!

Wintle belongs with the Donkeys at Blackpool, it’s about his level (on a good day)

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Wintle belongs with the Donkeys at Blackpool, it’s about his level (on a good day)

I disagree

He's a tidy , basic footballer

Just in front of the back four he does a good job

It's rambo and his absence that renders us losers in games like yesterday

[WJ99mobile]

I disagree

He's a tidy , basic footballer

Just in front of the back four he does a good job

It's rambo and his absence that renders us losers in games like yesterday

Basic is right. He’s too slow to close attackers down or break the lines but he’s not technically good enough to pull the strings or drop the ball into the correct places.

He’s fine but wouldn’t look a cut above in a league below.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

I disagree

He's a tidy , basic footballer

Just in front of the back four he does a good job

It's rambo and his absence that renders us losers in games like yesterday

There was a moment in the early stages of the game when a Swansea defender's pass, of only about 15 metres, was under hit. It was there for the taking by Wintle, he had momentum going towards the ball. We could have benefitted from the mistake, got the home fans on the player's back etc. But no, Wintle was just too slow to react and jogged towards the loose ball, where it was retrieved by a Swansea player.
Moments like that can sway the feeling within the ground amongst the home fans, but Wintle didn't have it in him.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

There was a moment in the early stages of the game when a Swansea defender's pass, of only about 15 metres, was under hit. It was there for the taking by Wintle, he had momentum going towards the ball. We could have benefitted from the mistake, got the home fans on the player's back etc. But no, Wintle was just too slow to react and jogged towards the loose ball, where it was retrieved by a Swansea player.
Moments like that can sway the feeling within the ground amongst the home fans, but Wintle didn't have it in him.

We conceded a corner after 15 seconds, when we had kick off. The writing was on the wall way before that. Wintle isn’t a great player at this level but Bulut gave him a new deal.

[Blooburd]

This thread is always hilarious when 90% of the forum goes into meltdown mode. Always blaming players who perform ok for not doing good and completely overlooking the regular offenders because its a bit embarrassing to point out the obvious (ok. perhaps im giving you a bit too much credit)

Ultimately, why dont we start the same way we finish each game? Why does it take 75 minutes to bring on the clear A-Team to get the job done? What is bulut thinking when he goes in half time after that dross?

Too many questions to "crucify" bulut on yet again and tbh over the last bunch of winning games. He is being carried by the 75th minute boys

[City123]

Neither is Colwill. Why don't we all just admit it? Same with Rambo. He's done. We need to move on.

Simply not true.

[LA Bluebird]

There was a moment in the early stages of the game when a Swansea defender's pass, of only about 15 metres, was under hit. It was there for the taking by Wintle, he had momentum going towards the ball. We could have benefitted from the mistake, got the home fans on the player's back etc. But no, Wintle was just too slow to react and jogged towards the loose ball, where it was retrieved by a Swansea player.
Moments like that can sway the feeling within the ground amongst the home fans, but Wintle didn't have it in him.

The entire midfield looked like they had no idea whether to press or sit in yesterday, not sure if they were rattled or Bulut tried to tweak it. You’d hope that wasn’t the case after it looked the best it has all season vs Ipswich

Turnbull notably looked like he had no clue what he was doing out there, which then led Wintle and Siopis chasing shadows for most of the game as it was so easy for Swansea to play through the lines in the first half.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

This thread is always hilarious when 90% of the forum goes into meltdown mode. Always blaming players who perform ok for not doing good and completely overlooking the regular offenders because its a bit embarrassing to point out the obvious (ok. perhaps im giving you a bit too much credit)

Ultimately, why dont we start the same way we finish each game? Why does it take 75 minutes to bring on the clear A-Team to get the job done? What is bulut thinking when he goes in half time after that dross?

Too many questions to "crucify" bulut on yet again and tbh over the last bunch of winning games. He is being carried by the 75th minute boys

Because teams start to sit back and let us have it. We look decent because we have to chuck men forward as we’ve got no other option and it can be effective.

[Tuerto]

Because teams start to sit back and let us have it. We look decent because we have to chuck men forward as we’ve got no other option and it can be effective.

it's not that difficult...

[A Quiet Monkfish]

The entire midfield looked like they had no idea whether to press or sit in yesterday, not sure if they were rattled or Bulut tried to tweak it. You’d hope that wasn’t the case after it looked the best it has all season vs Ipswich

Turnbull notably looked like he had no clue what he was doing out there, which then led Wintle and Siopis chasing shadows for most of the game as it was so easy for Swansea to play through the lines in the first half.

We're 38 games into the season and I'm still not sure if this group of players are playing to their best abilities. I have a suspicion that Bulut is more often than not opting for a pragmatic approach to games rather than 'throw caution to the wind' and suffer the consequences. It's his 1st job in the EFL/PL and I reckon he is seeing City as a tick on his CV. Surely any manager with a view to next season and our current league position would be taking all the positive options. Bulut seems to be playing safe, and keeping City mid table to show his suitors what a good manager he is..

[Cleve van Leef]

We're 38 games into the season and I'm still not sure if this group of players are playing to their best abilities. I have a suspicion that Bulut is more often than not opting for a pragmatic approach to games rather than 'throw caution to the wind' and suffer the consequences. It's his 1st job in the EFL/PL and I reckon he is seeing City as a tick on his CV. Surely any manager with a view to next season and our current league position would be taking all the positive options. Bulut seems to be playing safe, and keeping City mid table to show his suitors what a good manager he is..

Well his plan has obviously backfired.

[Blooburd]

Because teams start to sit back and let us have it. We look decent because we have to chuck men forward as we’ve got no other option and it can be effective.

it's not that difficult...

and yet...the first few games of the season (and a few scattered inbetween now and then) we have come out all guns blazing and put the opposition firmly on the ropes with our attack (including leading games 2-0!). Only for us to try and tuck tail run in the second half and get smashed before the game ends.

if there was ever a time to realise we are very weak at playing the defensive game but strong at our attacking (ground passing) game it was those first few games...but its a huge whoosh for this manager