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  • #31
    Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well I think the most fervent and vociferous anti English types are those that one week will cheer the defeat of the English rugby team then a few days later talk about Liverpool as if they were born half a mile from Anfield

    Which is of course a district in a city in England that flooded a part of Wales for a reservoir

    There's a quote from a Welsh football fan site .....as in fans of the national team .....and a poster asked what people thought of Welsh fans who supported English football teams when there were plenty of Welsh teams to follow ?

    One of the moderators said ..... I think they are all complete wankers ��

    I laugh my head off whenever I remember that, it killed the debate stone dead

    Of course we know that youngsters will support success and the big clubs so yes it's a bit ott but the arguement is a fair one

    I mean if these grown adults just happened to end up supporting these clubs why is it always Liverpool or United etc and not Barnet or Rochdale ?

    I could deal with that I ��
    A couple of mates come from Barrow and Stockport respectively and they are massive fans of those clubs and still go to occasional matches even though they haven't lived there for years. But they also support their local teams and attend matches there too. Coventry and Leeds. We're all different. When I lived in London I used to go to Highbury regularly and loved watching Arsenal. Since moving back to Cardiff we've been ST holders for the last decade. Everyone's story is different.

    I don't fall into the anti-English group. I don't hate other clubs or supporters.

    The anti-English thing, to me, is stupid considering the league we're in and just how many English players we have in the side at any one time. There are a lot of English people in Cardiff who support City. Not surprising considering it's such a cosmopolitan city.

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    • #32
      Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

      Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
      A couple of mates come from Barrow and Stockport respectively and they are massive fans of those clubs and still go to occasional matches even though they haven't lived there for years. But they also support their local teams and attend matches there too. Coventry and Leeds. We're all different. When I lived in London I used to go to Highbury regularly and loved watching Arsenal. Since moving back to Cardiff we've been ST holders for the last decade. Everyone's story is different.

      I don't fall into the anti-English group. I don't hate other clubs or supporters.

      The anti-English thing, to me, is stupid considering the league we're in and just how many English players we have in the side at any one time. There are a lot of English people in Cardiff who support City. Not surprising considering it's such a cosmopolitan city.
      The anti English / Welsh stuff is just puerile nonsense. I guess it's merely banter for the unimaginative.

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      • #33
        Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

        Originally posted by Trigger View Post
        The anti English / Welsh stuff is just puerile nonsense. I guess it's merely banter for the unimaginative.
        :thumbup:

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        • #34
          Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          I give a fkkk

          Wrexham , Caernarfon, Bangor City etc

          Certainly not an English football team as nationalists make such a fuss about their pride in being Welsh

          So either embrace it properly and support the teams that represent your area , country etc

          Or piss off with it all and flush the flag down the toilet

          It's all fake otherwise
          .... there are also a proportion of Cardiff City fans and Cardiffians who are completely out of touch with what happens in the rest of the country. They don't follow the national team and turn their antenas to pick up bbc bristol. They "hates welsh" and think the assembly is a waste of money.

          That kind of attitude strikes me as odd too. Maybe , even more so ... as club football is more incidental in my eyes than following your national team.

          With that being said, considering the history and demogrphic make of South East Wales , we are far more "welsh....anti-union" than swansea fans. It's all very confusing.

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          • #35
            Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

            Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
            I don't disagree with the 'taffia' nonsense.

            That said some of the stuff you spout is more parochial than anyone. It's just the irony.

            For what's it's worth, Rhys Ifans or anyone including Michael Sheen needed to motivate footballers playing for their country in a massive game is ****ing questionable.

            First people I would question are the ****ing players.

            That's me.

            Pity one of the players didn't say to him.

            "Get your own glue..."
            I doubt that the players actually need motivating, but it gives the FAW something to post on social media for their cheerleaders to lap up.

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            • #36
              Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

              Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
              Aren't you a Unionist? Can't he support anywhere in the union
              Of course he can support who he likes , it's a free country

              But if Welsh nationalists are going to bang the patriotic drum then I am free to rip the piss out of them if instead of supporting a Welsh sporting team........like Wrexham , Bangor , Cardiff or Swansea they latch onto the success of English ones

              It makes a mockery of their own principles

              You can understand 10 year old kids but grown adults it's pathetic

              Gethin Jones , Welsh speaking Cardiff born tv presenter ......Everton fan ......get out of here

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              • #37
                Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

                Originally posted by Divine Wright View Post
                .... there are also a proportion of Cardiff City fans and Cardiffians who are completely out of touch with what happens in the rest of the country. They don't follow the national team and turn their antenas to pick up bbc bristol. They "hates welsh" and think the assembly is a waste of money.

                That kind of attitude strikes me as odd too. Maybe , even more so ... as club football is more incidental in my eyes than following your national team.

                With that being said, considering the history and demogrphic make of South East Wales , we are far more "welsh....anti-union" than swansea fans. It's all very confusing.
                Apparently Cardiff has more first language Welsh speakers than Swansea which surprised me ?

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                • #38
                  Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  Apparently Cardiff has more first language Welsh speakers than Swansea which surprised me ?
                  There are a lot working at the BBC, Senedd and museum (inc St Fagans).

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                  • #39
                    Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

                    Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                    There are a lot working at the BBC, Senedd and museum (inc St Fagans).
                    Yes relocating here for work

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                    • #40
                      Re: Rhys Ifans' magnificent rallying cry to Wales players

                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      Yes relocating here for work
                      👍I missed out a whole load of civil service jobs and corporate HQ positions too. Massive influx of Welsh speakers now in Cardiff.

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