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  • #16
    Re: Could you do this?

    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
    I read somewhere that research shows that the longer a race goes on (Endurance) That women can start to out perform men. There's another Woman who does this kind of thing and she serves the mens arses on a plate. So, if a football match went on for four days then Cardiff City Women would beat their male counterparts, on evidence, 90 minutes would probably do it.
    I think that research might be just a bit wrong.

    The Women’s WR for a marathon is 2:11:53, over 11 minutes slower than the Men’s WR.

    In competitions, men have run a marathon in under 2:11:53 over 2500 times.

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    • #17
      Re: Could you do this?

      Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
      I think that research might be just a bit wrong.

      The Women’s WR for a marathon is 2:11:53, over 11 minutes slower than the Men’s WR.

      In competitions, men have run a marathon in under 2:11:53 over 2500 times.
      The longer a race goes on, that's where it levels out apparently. My reply was pretty anecdotal. I'm sure the evidence was based around muscle recovery.

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      • #18
        Re: Could you do this?

        Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
        I think that research might be just a bit wrong.

        The Women’s WR for a marathon is 2:11:53, over 11 minutes slower than the Men’s WR.

        In competitions, men have run a marathon in under 2:11:53 over 2500 times.
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3680...%20top%20women.

        It’s more to do with endurance trail running which is not the same as traditional Olympic style marathons.

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        • #19
          Re: Could you do this?

          Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
          The longer a race goes on, that's where it levels out apparently. My reply was pretty anecdotal. I'm sure the evidence was based around muscle recovery.
          I can see the gap closing, but I don't know if women become better than men.

          There's a good book called Born To Run about ultra runners and offroad runners etc, though it's a long time since I read it. There was one person that the author kept going on about, a US female who was apparently really good at running down hill and could do it better than most men. But she wasn't winning races, just very competitive in that part of it.

          I think women carry less muscle and weight. A small frame is better in endurance, whereas muscle and power is better for sprints and middle distance. So there's less of a gap and women are more competitive with males.


          But world records in all distances are still quicker for males than females.

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          • #20
            Re: Could you do this?

            Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
            The longer a race goes on, that's where it levels out apparently. My reply was pretty anecdotal. I'm sure the evidence was based around muscle recovery.
            In fairness, women do live longer statistically so if the race lasted 81 years they would definitely have been overtaking us in the last couple.

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            • #21
              Re: Could you do this?

              [QUOTE=JamesWales;5499030]In fairness, women do live longer statistically so if the race lasted 81 years they would definitely have been overtaking us in the last couple.

              Elderly female ultra-marathoners reduced the gap to male ultra-marathoners in Swiss running races.

              [/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37532766/

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              • #22
                Re: Could you do this?

                Originally posted by lardy View Post
                I can see the gap closing, but I don't know if women become better than men.

                There's a good book called Born To Run about ultra runners and offroad runners etc, though it's a long time since I read it. There was one person that the author kept going on about, a US female who was apparently really good at running down hill and could do it better than most men. But she wasn't winning races, just very competitive in that part of it.

                I think women carry less muscle and weight. A small frame is better in endurance, whereas muscle and power is better for sprints and middle distance. So there's less of a gap and women are more competitive with males.


                But world records in all distances are still quicker for males than females.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon
                There are loads of female WR holders cited in that Wiki reference though. WRs are anomalies. There are loads of papers in the sources I posted that refer to endurance. That’s different to speed. It’s like trying to compare an F1 race to the 24hr of Le Mans. Track records aren’t broken every race.

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                • #23
                  Re: Could you do this?

                  Originally posted by cityhammer View Post
                  Football isnt an endurance sport tho.
                  It is when I’m watching us play!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Could you do this?

                    "Goggins initially attempted to enter Badwater 135 without any ultra experience, but given it is an invite-only event, he was told he would need to run a 100-mile race first. Having never even run a marathon before, he completed the 2005 San Diego One Day, running 100 miles in 18:56:00."

                    https://run247.com/running-news/ultr...2018%3A56%3A00.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Could you do this?

                      Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                      There are loads of female WR holders cited in that Wiki reference though. WRs are anomalies. There are loads of papers in the sources I posted that refer to endurance. That’s different to speed. It’s like trying to compare an F1 race to the 24hr of Le Mans. Track records aren’t broken every race.
                      Yeah, they're the female world records

                      I've said about the difference between endurance and speed in my post. I think you're saying pretty much the same as me tbh

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                      • #26
                        Re: Could you do this?

                        Originally posted by lardy View Post
                        I can see the gap closing, but I don't know if women become better than men.

                        There's a good book called Born To Run about ultra runners and offroad runners etc, though it's a long time since I read it. There was one person that the author kept going on about, a US female who was apparently really good at running down hill and could do it better than most men. But she wasn't winning races, just very competitive in that part of it.

                        I think women carry less muscle and weight. A small frame is better in endurance, whereas muscle and power is better for sprints and middle distance. So there's less of a gap and women are more competitive with males.


                        But world records in all distances are still quicker for males than females.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarathon
                        In marathon swimming women frequently beat men

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                        • #27
                          Re: Could you do this?

                          Originally posted by lardy View Post
                          Yeah, they're the female world records

                          I've said about the difference between endurance and speed in my post. I think you're saying pretty much the same as me tbh
                          yeah....the caffeine hadn't kicked in. At least my reply to you was semi-coherent. The one to JamesWales was unreadable. No proper quote and the URL didn't work. Not that he reads them anyway!

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                          • #28
                            Re: Could you do this?

                            I can't get my head around why anyone would want to do this in the first place.
                            Guess I'm just not wired (or built) for running.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Could you do this?

                              Maddness. . Okay for Camels

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