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Thread: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

  1. #126

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Good effort but Pages subs absolutely bizarre, bring off your most versatile forward leaving Kieffer blowing fumes out there for extra time. Johnson wasn’t even the logical sub, Wilson was poor far before that.

    Then whatever the deal with Brooks was, don’t think he ever used all his subs did he? After getting it so right against Finland got it equally wrong tonight.

  2. #127

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    I always feel so sorry for the player concerned when they are the only ones to miss in a penalty shoot out - in some ways, it would have been better if we’d have missed three out of the five.

    I’m not calling for Page to be sacked because of tonight or anything, but it does seem odd that he only chose to use three subs in a game that lasted two hours and one of those was to replace another sub.

  3. #128

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Ward is a decent keeper.

    But Ward had faced 138 penalties in his life and saved none. He is 6 ft 3.

    Hennessy is 6 ft 6.

    Page should have made a proper call. Knowing Poland’s keeper was good on penalties he could not expect to compete with a keeper with a 0% historic chance of saving, when it was a higher probability that Hennessy could save 1, or even or 2, with his huge reach.

    Page made a bad call and it was his call to make.

  4. #129

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Ward hasn’t got near them.
    To be fair he didnt have any chance of stopping them. All well taken. Unfortunately 1 of ours wasnt.

  5. #130

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Shame but we need to up things in qualifying and not rely on these favourable draws. You have to be a pretty poor team not to qualify for the euros these days

  6. #131

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I always feel so sorry for the player concerned when they are the only ones to miss in a penalty shoot out - in some ways, it would have been better if we’d have missed three out of the five.

    I’m not calling for Page to be sacked because of tonight or anything, but it does seem odd that he only chose to use three subs in a game that lasted two hours and one of those was to replace another sub.
    It’s far from the first time Page has forgotten to use his subs in a key situation. Sorry, he’s done a passable job but not the manager to take us forward in my book. How you look at that last performance and decide to do the total opposite a few days later is totally beyond me.

  7. #132

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    The frustration is that we defended really well tonight. The subs made no sense and we totally lost our shape.
    Brennan Johnson was our best player in the first half so why sub him? Dan James was really playing like a fullback so we didn't have any outlet

  8. #133

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    Ward is a decent keeper.

    But Ward had faced 138 penalties in his life and saved none. He is 6 ft 3.

    Hennessy is 6 ft 6.

    Page should have made a proper call. Knowing Poland’s keeper was good on penalties he could not expect to compete with a keeper with a 0% historic chance of saving, when it was a higher probability that Hennessy could save 1, or even or 2, with his huge reach.

    Page made a bad call and it was his call to make.
    Is that a made up stat as it sounds unbelievable to me.

    Pretty mental if he hasn't managed to save one ever, some penalties are absolutely terrible.

  9. #134

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    Ward is a decent keeper.

    But Ward had faced 138 penalties in his life and saved none. He is 6 ft 3.

    Hennessy is 6 ft 6.

    Page should have made a proper call. Knowing Poland’s keeper was good on penalties he could not expect to compete with a keeper with a 0% historic chance of saving, when it was a higher probability that Hennessy could save 1, or even or 2, with his huge reach.

    Page made a bad call and it was his call to make.
    At least if he’d done that not using all his subs when we were hanging the entire second half of extra time would have been a little more justifiable.

  10. #135

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    Ward is a decent keeper.

    But Ward had faced 138 penalties in his life and saved none. He is 6 ft 3.

    Hennessy is 6 ft 6.

    Page should have made a proper call. Knowing Poland’s keeper was good on penalties he could not expect to compete with a keeper with a 0% historic chance of saving, when it was a higher probability that Hennessy could save 1, or even or 2, with his huge reach.

    Page made a bad call and it was his call to make.
    This says different about Ward’s record with penalties.

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/danny-w...spieler/203026

    Don’t know how reliable that site is mind.

  11. #136

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    To be fair he didnt have any chance of stopping them. All well taken. Unfortunately 1 of ours wasnt.
    I am never really sure how this works, goalie guessed the right way or the plays that scored knocking it down the middle waited/tricked the goalie into moving.

    If the goalie goes the other way James' penalty looks as good as some of the others.

  12. #137

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    Ward is a decent keeper.

    But Ward had faced 138 penalties in his life and saved none. He is 6 ft 3.

    Hennessy is 6 ft 6.

    Page should have made a proper call. Knowing Poland’s keeper was good on penalties he could not expect to compete with a keeper with a 0% historic chance of saving, when it was a higher probability that Hennessy could save 1, or even or 2, with his huge reach.

    Page made a bad call and it was his call to make.
    This is total bollocks.

    He saved one last year v Turkey

    According to TM he’s saved 4 out of 29.

  13. #138

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep View Post
    Should have gone for it from the start with pace and movement and not Moore - completely changes the focus of our attack.
    I actually thought Page got it right for once, and we were the better side for most of the game. Poland didn't manage a single shot on target, with one of the best striker in the world.
    I'm gutted but ultimately optimistic about this side going forward. The core of this team has huge experience together and loads of them are 23 and younger. The future is definitely bright.

  14. #139

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Is that a made up stat as it sounds unbelievable to me.

    Pretty mental if he hasn't managed to save one ever, some penalties are absolutely terrible.
    If it is wrong I hold my hand up. The heights are correct, but a relative gave the stats. I haven’t verified them but unless he is out drinking he is usually pretty straight

  15. #140

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    So, it's the fault of Page. Nothing to do with the outfield players who created not very much for 2 hours? I'm not being critical of anyone. Decent enough performance from Wales. Both teams pretty ordinary. We didn't really trouble Poland, we were at home, it's our job to trouble them.

  16. #141

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    This says different about Ward’s record with penalties.

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/danny-w...spieler/203026

    Don’t know how reliable that site is mind.
    More reliable than Keyser

  17. #142

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by CopenhagenBlue View Post
    I actually thought Page got it right for once, and we were the better side for most of the game. Poland didn't manage a single shot on target, with one of the best striker in the world.
    I'm gutted but ultimately optimistic about this side going forward. The core of this team has huge experience together and loads of them are 23 and younger. The future is definitely bright.
    Totaly agree

  18. #143

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    The frustration is that we defended really well tonight. The subs made no sense and we totally lost our shape.
    Brennan Johnson was our best player in the first half so why sub him? Dan James was really playing like a fullback so we didn't have any outlet
    Agree about Johnson, I’ve knocked him for his performances in a Wales shirt in the past, but I thought he had the beating of the Polish defenders in the first half especially.

    I thought we were taking charge of the game in its middle third and was getting quite confident, but around the time Jordan James got booked, we seemed to get nervy and, without really taking charge, Poland looked quite comfortable from then on.

  19. #144

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    To be fair he didnt have any chance of stopping them. All well taken. Unfortunately 1 of ours wasnt.
    And even then - it wasn’t that much of a bad pen, it had pace into the corner, just a bit too close to a keeper who dived right way

  20. #145

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    So, it's the fault of Page. Nothing to do with the outfield players who created not very much for 2 hours? I'm not being critical of anyone. Decent enough performance from Wales. Both teams pretty ordinary. We didn't really trouble Poland, we were at home, it's our job to trouble them.
    It was a very Wales performance, comfortable, competent but ultimately very little end product. It felt like we pressured them into loads of mistakes at the back but never capitalised.

  21. #146

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    We have a good , young side and that's a positive

    But we had 2 hours to beat them and we couldn't do it

    So it's always a lottery

  22. #147

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I am never really sure how this works, goalie guessed the right way or the plays that scored knocking it down the middle waited/tricked the goalie into moving.

    If the goalie goes the other way James' penalty looks as good as some of the others.
    Agreed. looked an ok save rather than a bad pen to me. look at some of the others. Almost straight down the middle.

  23. #148

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Danny Ward saved a pen v Reading in the 2017 play off final.

  24. #149

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    To be fair he didnt have any chance of stopping them. All well taken. Unfortunately 1 of ours wasnt.
    Exactly this. All those 5 pens were great. You hope to get one that is badly hit and give the keeper a chance. Unfortunately the one out of ten was one of ours...

  25. #150

    Re: FT: WALES 0-0 POLAND. AET. Poland win on penalties.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Totaly agree
    And me, people on here always looking for someone to blame. Sometimes nobody is at fault.

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