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  • #16
    Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

    People keep mentioning the embargo, like the majority of other clubs (ones not relegated or with parachute payments) were able to spend a lot!

    how much did other clubs spend?

    Bulut has brought in enough players to influence the team, 10 games isn't enough to judge and rightly so, but we've played 39 now and the majority of the season has been horrendous with then odd result thrown in. Get rid.

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    • #17
      Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

      Originally posted by Dembe View Post
      People keep mentioning the embargo, like the majority of other clubs (ones not relegated or with parachute payments) were able to spend a lot!

      how much did other clubs spend?

      Bulut has brought in enough players to influence the team, 10 games isn't enough to judge and rightly so, but we've played 39 now and the majority of the season has been horrendous with then odd result thrown in. Get rid.
      Well the fact we have 53 points suggests that it has been more than the odd good result

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      • #18
        Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

        If one were to look at Bulut's thoughts on the players that were signed since he has been here, then I would say that he has failed to utilise the strengths of most of those players, or has failed to "adapt" them into the shape that he wants to play.

        If that is the case, it is pretty damming statement on his own Management.

        I will pick out some of those players, and reflect on those quotes that you say Bulut made at the time of signing.

        Ugbo:
        If those were his thoughts, then Ugbo was not used in any way shape or form to utilise the strengths identified.

        Grant:
        Pretty much as said on the tin... except... where are the goals and assists?
        I would assume that they are overlooked by a Manager who is more interested in getting the attacking players to run back. Not risk losing possession when attacking, IE, don't dare even thinking about attempting a defence splitting pass if there is any way we can keep possession. So stop this silly notion of forward momentum, turn around, pass it backwards and keep possession (well done).

        Runnerson:
        Wait... good with his feet? By the end of his first game, and any time thereafter, whenever Runnerson had the ball at his feet, I was turning around to my Grandson and was gleefully singing "dodgy keeper, dodgy keeper". If I could see this, why can't a Professional football Manager?

        Ramsey:
        Looking at his comments, I get the impression he wsan't keen on that signing. In retrospect, I can see that Bulut isn't keen on players that are creative. Of course any creativity can be coached out of them (see Grant, above). Ramsey, however, is a fan's favourite, so would Bulut risk attempting that? Hence the underwhelming comments when compared to some of the other journeymen that Bulut praised upon signing.

        Talking of journeymen:
        Those other two strikers... well what was the point?
        Do you know what... I can't even remember their names. They are so ineffective, and I can't even be bothered to scroll back up to your opening comments to find out who they are... and as they are currently "playing" for the club, that is damming enough.

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        • #19
          Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          Well the fact we have 53 points suggests that it has been more than the odd good result
          It suggests we have amassed a good points total by way of playing turgid football, the type of thing you shouldn't be charged to watch.

          When I said good results I wasn't referring to 1 nil wins over Millwall and Watford where everyone in the stadium was bored into silence.

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          • #20
            Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

            Brentford have lost 14 of the last 18, so they say on Sky Sports watching them play United.

            You'd have no idea watching them because Thomas Frank has them playing exactly the same way he always does, he didn't shit his pants and go ultra defensive when things didn't work out early on.

            A stronger manager will stick to his guns, Bulut folded at the first sign of pressure early in the season. Weak weak man.

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            • #21
              Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

              Originally posted by Father Dougal View Post
              If that. Couldn't get a game for York last season. He really hasn't proved he's even non league level yet.
              And yet I think Tanner should be playing every single game. As should Colwill. What’s the worst that could happen? We get absolutely stuffed and don’t have a shot on target? We are doing that now

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              • #22
                Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                Originally posted by KingOfSiamIAm View Post
                where are the goals and assists?
                Ugbo has gone away and banged them in. Grant has scored 18 and 19 goals in Champ seasons before as a 9. Bulut has had strikers, he can’t use them. Méďté and Bowler scored more goals last season.

                People seem to be saying Bulut has got no chance cos our strikers don’t score when he’s a massive factor in that.

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                • #23
                  Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                  I'm not defending Bulut's season, style or tactics. but does it really matter what he said about the players when they were signed? Some of them could have been pretty far down on his wish list. We don't know. He still has to say positive things about them.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                    Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                    I'm not defending Bulut's season, style or tactics. but does it really matter what he said about the players when they were signed? Some of them could have been pretty far down on his wish list. We don't know. He still has to say positive things about them.
                    I think some of the comments are quite revealing. But none of it really matters. It’s only football. And it goes on and on and on.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      I think some of the comments are quite revealing. But none of it really matters. It’s only football. And it goes on and on and on.
                      Honestly, how many other managers would have said the same thing the players who have been signed?

                      They are not going to make the assumption that they are garbage are they

                      Next ?

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                      • #26
                        Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                        Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                        Next ?
                        Next we’re going to discuss the January transfer window. We’re going to debate whether Bulut really did have to arrange some deals at the last minute as he claimed, or if those players were in fact signed weeks and even months in advance but the announcements were delayed for dramatic purposes.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                          Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                          That's a fair shout.
                          I don't think it is to be fair. I saw enough of Tanner pre-season and early season to say that he's a decent enough footballer and deserves his break out of non-league football. He has something imo. Is he good enough for a season in The Championship? Absolutely not but he'd easily play in L2 (and I love my L2 football as you know).

                          Every player is sh*t out on the park for Cardiff City at the moment and has been for most of 2024. Nobody is doing anything well. There were still plenty of fans clapping these players off the park yesterday when the stadium should have been empty.

                          I don't like singling out any of the players too much when they're all shite. I think that's down to Bulut. The team is shite. The manager is shite and the football is dire, mind-numbingly, bad shite on top.

                          I agree with you about why the f*ck as fans are we constantly defending this but I keep asking the question "how is it that every f*cking footballer that comes to Cardiff City and is playing for Cardiff City is worse than before they came here?"

                          I absolutely love Siopis. 63 appearances for Trabzonspor before he came here. Is there a single Cardiff City player who would be signed for them? He's sh*t now.

                          Turnbull. Why was he on the bench yesterday? Fans are already calling him sh*t.

                          Ralls. Why was he given an extension (probably because the sentimentality that's rife throughout our club is catching)? He was sh*t again yesterday.

                          I got home in a furious mood yesterday. After reading that there'll only be about 8 afternoon matches next season. Wet, cold and p*ssed off (again) me and Mrs C had a long talk and said "f*ck it. That's enough". No more ST for us. We've turned into a miserable club, with miserable football and miserable owners (and yes, I'm know a miserable fan).

                          So, we can analyse the players as much as we want. But this is Erol's squad. This is Erol's football. And Erol's football is shite and turns good players into shite.

                          F*ck I feel better for that!

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                          • #28
                            Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                            Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                            I don't think it is to be fair. I saw enough of Tanner pre-season and early season to say that he's a decent enough footballer and deserves his break out of non-league football. He has something imo. Is he good enough for a season in The Championship? Absolutely not but he'd easily play in L2 (and I love my L2 football as you know).

                            Every player is sh*t out on the park for Cardiff City at the moment and has been for most of 2024. Nobody is doing anything well. There were still plenty of fans clapping these players off the park yesterday when the stadium should have been empty.

                            I don't like singling out any of the players too much when they're all shite. I think that's down to Bulut. The team is shite. The manager is shite and the football is dire, mind-numbingly, bad shite on top.

                            I agree with you about why the f*ck as fans are we constantly defending this but I keep asking the question "how is it that every f*cking footballer that comes to Cardiff City and is playing for Cardiff City is worse than before they came here?"

                            I absolutely love Siopis. 63 appearances for Trabzonspor before he came here. Is there a single Cardiff City player who would be signed for them? He's sh*t now.

                            Turnbull. Why was he on the bench yesterday? Fans are already calling him sh*t.

                            Ralls. Why was he given an extension (probably because the sentimentality that's rife throughout our club is catching)? He was sh*t again yesterday.

                            I got home in a furious mood yesterday. After reading that there'll only be about 8 afternoon matches next season. Wet, cold and p*ssed off (again) me and Mrs C had a long talk and said "f*ck it. That's enough". No more ST for us. We've turned into a miserable club, with miserable football and miserable owners (and yes, I'm know a miserable fan).

                            So, we can analyse the players as much as we want. But this is Erol's squad. This is Erol's football. And Erol's football is shite and turns good players into shite.

                            F*ck I feel better for that!
                            Good post. Don't agree with you on Tanner, although i have to conceed that you have seen much more of him than i have. And i get that Erol Bulut is the common denominator, and that he is shit and he should have gone after the last game in my opinion. But to make 25 players shit, every one of them (Outfield) would take some doing, in fact, it would take some skill to nullify a whole workforce and take away anything good that they have. That's quite a feat. As fot not bothering next season, don't blame you one inch. I can't watch that garbage either. It makes me angry.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              Next we’re going to discuss the January transfer window. We’re going to debate whether Bulut really did have to arrange some deals at the last minute as he claimed, or if those players were in fact signed weeks and even months in advance but the announcements were delayed for dramatic purposes.
                              I’m sure you can do better than that …… next ….

                              Funny how you really dislike being challenged ….snide **** aren’t you ?

                              Next…….

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                              • #30
                                Re: Erol Bulut's Cardiff City squad

                                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                                Good post. Don't agree with you on Tanner, although i have to conceed that you have seen much more of him than i have. And i get that Erol Bulut is the common denominator, and that he is shit and he should have gone after the last game in my opinion. But to make 25 players shit, every one of them (Outfield) would take some doing, in fact, it would take some skill to nullify a whole workforce and take away anything good that they have. That's quite a feat. As fot not bothering next season, don't blame you one inch. I can't watch that garbage either. It makes me angry.
                                Yeah, I ain't going to double down on my argument. You got me there on the 'some feat' point......but.....

                                ....I'll take on board your football knowledge and experience. I have, however, seen whole teams in the workplace lose confidence though and start underperforming when they've the wrong leaders. Manager. Captain. Those mythical 'wunderkinds' who are good for the dressing room. It can all stack up to the perfect storm.

                                I'm not going to die on Tanner's hill either as I agree with you about something you've advocated for a long time this season. How is it that none of the players are taking the games by the scruff? You know from my posts I was a big Tomlin fan. I think he'd play his own game and bring everyone with him....regardless of Bulut's 'instructions'. It's probably why Warnock didn't get the best out of him....anyway....I digress (sort of).

                                Edit: ....still love Siopis though!

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