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    Tesco profits

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68776913

    The UK's biggest supermarket chain said pre-tax profits hit £2.3bn, up from £882m, while sales rose by 4.4% to £68.2bn in the year to 24 February.

    So, sales up by just over 4% whilst profits up nearly three-fold. Is it just me or do I detect rip-off Britain at work here, under the cover of "inflation"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68776913

    The UK's biggest supermarket chain said pre-tax profits hit £2.3bn, up from £882m, while sales rose by 4.4% to £68.2bn in the year to 24 February.

    So, sales up by just over 4% whilst profits up nearly three-fold. Is it just me or do I detect rip-off Britain at work here, under the cover of "inflation"?
    They also just made 100s of staff redundant but I am guessing nobody in the boardroom went.

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    Re: Tesco profits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68776913

    The UK's biggest supermarket chain said pre-tax profits hit £2.3bn, up from £882m, while sales rose by 4.4% to £68.2bn in the year to 24 February.

    So, sales up by just over 4% whilst profits up nearly three-fold. Is it just me or do I detect rip-off Britain at work here, under the cover of "inflation"?
    Not just you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68776913

    The UK's biggest supermarket chain said pre-tax profits hit £2.3bn, up from £882m, while sales rose by 4.4% to £68.2bn in the year to 24 February.

    So, sales up by just over 4% whilst profits up nearly three-fold. Is it just me or do I detect rip-off Britain at work here, under the cover of "inflation"?
    No question about it. When inflation is in the news, it's a green light for every company to increase their prices, even if they don't need to. Customer expectations were to pay more and so many did, even begrudgingly.

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    Stop agreeing with each other, this is a message board not a party political broadcast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Stop agreeing with each other, this is a message board not a party political broadcast!
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    I’m not a fan of Tesco. I don’t like their stores, their meal deals or their clubcards. Shirley Porter’s big council house sell-off for votes still rankles.

    However they are making about 3p profit on every £1 of sales. That is not a rip-off or profiteering. Prior to the pandemic most supermarket chains made 2-4% profits on revenue before tax and that had been the case for decades.

    Selling food is similar to selling fuel for vehicles. It’s an absolute necessity and if your prices are a bit too high then the consumer will shop elsewhere. That’s why margins are so low compared to, say, tech. Apple, for example, makes annual profits of around $170 billion on sales of $380 billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue sky View Post
    I’m not a fan of Tesco. I don’t like their stores, their meal deals or their clubcards. Shirley Porter’s big council house sell-off for votes still rankles.

    However they are making about 3p profit on every £1 of sales. That is not a rip-off or profiteering. Prior to the pandemic most supermarket chains made 2-4% profits on revenue before tax and that had been the case for decades.

    Selling food is similar to selling fuel for vehicles. It’s an absolute necessity and if your prices are a bit too high then the consumer will shop elsewhere. That’s why margins are so low compared to, say, tech. Apple, for example, makes annual profits of around $170 billion on sales of $380 billion.
    Hard to argue with that really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Hard to argue with that really.
    Try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Try.
    I'll leave it to you on this occasion. Something about the glorious nationalisation of supermarkets and agriculture providing the solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I'll leave it to you on this occasion. Something about the glorious nationalisation of supermarkets and agriculture providing the solution?
    Probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue sky View Post
    I’m not a fan of Tesco. I don’t like their stores, their meal deals or their clubcards. Shirley Porter’s big council house sell-off for votes still rankles.

    However they are making about 3p profit on every £1 of sales. That is not a rip-off or profiteering. Prior to the pandemic most supermarket chains made 2-4% profits on revenue before tax and that had been the case for decades.

    Selling food is similar to selling fuel for vehicles. It’s an absolute necessity and if your prices are a bit too high then the consumer will shop elsewhere. That’s why margins are so low compared to, say, tech. Apple, for example, makes annual profits of around $170 billion on sales of $380 billion.
    Please explain how an increase in sales of 4.4% can lead to pre-tax profits increasing from £882 million to £68 billion?

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    “Explain it to me?”

    Read the annual accounts on www.investegate.co.uk, using the TSCO EPIC code. All publicly available and free. It will explain it to you.

    Accounting isn’t difficult: a few rules, three structures to understand (P and L, Cashflow statement and a balance sheet.), and some average arithmetic to interpret it.

    Read the accounts backwards though. That is, read the footnotes first for dirty tricks, or clever accountants rule-bending and chicanery, and the first two of three items above should tell you what you need to know. You’ll be bored as an accounting graduate staring out of the window “doing audit” for their first two years but you’ll get it I’m sure.

    Accounting isn’t hard. Or you wouldn’t see so
    many average IQ dolly birds taking the courses at Uni as you do these days. The clever ones go to the big 4. The really smart ones will work in offshore tax advisory and wealth management. But most of the cattle will be lucky enough to earn a teachers salary before being AI’d out of existence or impregnated by a senior accountant / boss. A high life it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    “Explain it to me?”

    Read the annual accounts on www.investegate.co.uk, using the TSCO EPIC code. All publicly available and free. It will explain it to you.

    Accounting isn’t difficult: a few rules, three structures to understand (P and L, Cashflow statement and a balance sheet.), and some average arithmetic to interpret it.

    Read the accounts backwards though. That is, read the footnotes first for dirty tricks, or clever accountants rule-bending and chicanery, and the first two of three items above should tell you what you need to know. You’ll be bored as an accounting graduate staring out of the window “doing audit” for their first two years but you’ll get it I’m sure.

    Accounting isn’t hard. Or you wouldn’t see so
    many average IQ dolly birds taking the courses at Uni as you do these days. The clever ones go to the big 4. The really smart ones will work in offshore tax advisory and wealth management. But most of the cattle will be lucky enough to earn a teachers salary before being AI’d out of existence or impregnated by a senior accountant / boss. A high life it is not.
    Or impregnated by the AI if it deems them worthy.

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    Re: Tesco profits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68776913

    The UK's biggest supermarket chain said pre-tax profits hit £2.3bn, up from £882m, while sales rose by 4.4% to £68.2bn in the year to 24 February.

    So, sales up by just over 4% whilst profits up nearly three-fold. Is it just me or do I detect rip-off Britain at work here, under the cover of "inflation"?
    Why shop at Tesco's then ?, there are other options, including CostCo, ASDA, Coop, Splott market. Lidl / Aldi my goto places when in the UK. Compare the UK to Spain and you will notice how much you are getting ripped off - and how willingly people are allowing themselves to be ripped off.

    You have have choices and options, you cant blame Tesco for trying to make money - they are a business - and you are the victim - shop elsewhere. If you dont you are thick - and that is just what they want. Thick customers who cant think for themselves and are willing to give Tesco all your spare cash / credit

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Why shop at Tesco's then ?, there are other options, including CostCo, ASDA, Coop, Splott market. Lidl / Aldi my goto places when in the UK. Compare the UK to Spain and you will notice how much you are getting ripped off - and how willingly people are allowing themselves to be ripped off.

    You have have choices and options, you cant blame Tesco for trying to make money - they are a business - and you are the victim - shop elsewhere. If you dont you are thick - and that is just what they want. Thick customers who cant think for themselves and are willing to give Tesco all your spare cash / credit
    Splott Market has been shut for 2yrs.

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    Thanks for the update - but you get the idea I'm sure ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Thanks for the update - but you get the idea I'm sure ?
    Yeh just being a bit pedantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Yeh just being a bit pedantic.
    I remember as a kid going down Bessemer road market on Sunday mornings. I presume they still have the car boot market there ? - not been down there for a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Why shop at Tesco's then ?, there are other options, including CostCo, ASDA, Coop, Splott market. Lidl / Aldi my goto places when in the UK. Compare the UK to Spain and you will notice how much you are getting ripped off - and how willingly people are allowing themselves to be ripped off.

    You have have choices and options, you cant blame Tesco for trying to make money - they are a business - and you are the victim - shop elsewhere. If you dont you are thick - and that is just what they want. Thick customers who cant think for themselves and are willing to give Tesco all your spare cash / credit
    I haven't shopped in Tesco's for over 20 years since the accounting scandal at the time and the arrogant attitude of the directors.

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    Re: Tesco profits

    Inflation heading back to 2% , which deserves recognition ..

    Time for the government to put pressure on them , sadly that is not easy unless they windfall tax them , I'd call it repayment of the furlough scheme , that kept many afloat ..

    To be fair Aldi / Lidl prices are also up and an easy 20%. .

    Whats the next Pm and his deputy lady saying about all this ???????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Please explain how an increase in sales of 4.4% can lead to pre-tax profits increasing from £882 million to £68 billion?
    The explanation is in the BBC article in the OP. ‘Price pressures’ hit margins. Tesco has contracts with growers and suppliers and would have seen its margins squeezed as food price inflation hit 20% in late 2022/early 2023. These latest figures are a return to normal profitability, as you can see in this link from Tesco itself.

    https://www.tescoplc.com/investors/r...e-year-record/

    I walk/drive past Tesco to shop at Morrisons. I don’t like Tesco’s links to the Tories or their borderline fraudulent deals, or their data-collecting clubcard. They were pioneers of these manipulation techniques and I can’t abide the company.

    But as I wrote yesterday, profiteering is very difficult in the grocery business as there are at least 10 large food retail companies in the UK who mainly compete on prices.

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