We Want You to Stay

[NYCBlue]

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The only chanting I could hear was coming from the Southampton fans. All game long.

[TWGL1]

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Ringing around the ground at the end of the game

the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up

Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance

At Millwall last week the majority of the 1,410 away supporters were singing “we want you to stay “ and it was pretty conclusive in the ground yesterday that the fans were on his side.

If he went I’d imagine Siopis and Goutas would follow him , so I’d prefer some stability. Yes there has been some bad runs , (bad runs just like Leeds , Leicester ,Southampton and the majority of all the other teams in the league) but we are on course for a top ten finish which is more than acceptable all things considered.

Thankfully this narrow window of opinion on this board is hardly a benchmark of the majority of supporters who actually attend the games.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Spoken like a guy who wasn’t at the game

Here he is….

Of course I was at the game. Do you honestly believe the majority of City fans present were chanting for Bulut to stay? I don’t. I sit in the middle of the Ninian Stand. A few around me were chanting for Bulut to stay. A large majority were silent while those chants were underway.

In my experience, opinion is very much split on the manager with the biggest percentage of people unsure either way.

[olderblue]

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Here he is….

Of course I was at the game. Do you honestly believe the majority of City fans present were chanting for Bulut to stay? I don’t. I sit in the middle of the Ninian Stand. A few around me were chanting for Bulut to stay. A large majority were silent while those chants were underway.

In my experience, opinion is very much split on the manager with the biggest percentage of people unsure either way.

I’d say that’s spot on, even our little group is divided on this one, a few were chanting, but not that many by us.
As much as I enjoyed the win yesterday, we should have been out of it by half time, their finishing was woeful and we benefited from that.
The big positives were seeing a few youngsters on the pitch, at last it’s been long overdue

Some of these lads with a point to prove battled in such a way that we haven’t seen for ages from established first team players.

It just highlights again how rigid Bulut has been in his previous selections, doggedly sticking with players who either don’t give a toss (Bowler) or just completely lack bottle ( Wintle)

The youngsters, especially Conte were a breath of fresh air, walking back to the pub afterwards I was talking to an old pal, and the first thing he said about the young players was that “he hoped Bulut wouldn’t coach that enthusiasm out of them, if he’s still here next season “

Pretty well sums up my opinion of him, I think there’s better coaches out there, and I don’t get this idea that we have to stick with him, because we’re uncertain about who’ll replace him.

Some of the football offered by him this year has been dogshite and hard to watch

I’ll renew my ST, but it’s going to be a hard sell for the club, unless there’s a couple of exciting players coming in to shift ST,s this summer based on the style of over cautious defensive football, that Bulut has been responsible for since November.

[Nobody's Rep]

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I’d say that’s spot on, even our little group is divided on this one, a few were chanting, but not that many by us.
As much as I enjoyed the win yesterday, we should have been out of it by half time, their finishing was woeful and we benefited from that.
The big positives were seeing a few youngsters on the pitch, at last it’s been long overdue

Some of these lads with a point to prove battled in such a way that we haven’t seen for ages from established first team players.

It just highlights again how rigid Bulut has been in his previous selections, doggedly sticking with players who either don’t give a toss (Bowler) or just completely lack bottle ( Wintle)

The youngsters, especially Conte were a breath of fresh air, walking back to the pub afterwards I was talking to an old pal, and the first thing he said about the young players was that “he hoped Bulut wouldn’t coach that enthusiasm out of them, if he’s still here next season “

Pretty well sums up my opinion of him, I think there’s better coaches out there, and I don’t get this idea that we have to stick with him, because we’re uncertain about who’ll replace him.

Some of the football offered by him this year has been dogshite and hard to watch

I’ll renew my ST, but it’s going to be a hard sell for the club, unless there’s a couple of exciting players coming in to shift ST,s this summer based on the style of over cautious defensive football, that Bulut has been responsible for since November.

Not going to enter what is a fairly polarised debate of bulut in or out but I think my biggest concern re his replacement is the competence of our hierarchy to get it right - I am sure there a number of managers out there who would be interested but I'm sure they will be influenced by the "treatment" of the procession of recent managers have had and if they are currently employed wonder if it is worth any more risk than they face in their current employ.

What I will say is I watched buluts post match conference yesterday and it may have been me reading too much into it but when referencing next season I got the distinct impression he knows he won't be here?

In terms of a replacement when was the last time we took a manager from another club - I'm struggling to think who that would be so the chances are people will be keen to come here because they are unemployed as that is probably our market

As for season tickets I suspect like me a lot of people will renew to keep their seat for next year so the club are "guaranteed" a base crowd around 13-14 thousand and I'm not convinced season tickets are that important in terms of income - it is more about atmosphere yet we all know atmosphere is a reflection of what happens on the pitch not necessarily how many are watching it

And I'm with you in terms of having youngsters used instead of expensive journey men loans such as bowler - there is enough scope in match day squads to get that balance right without exposing youngsters unnecessarily but still having opportunities to blood them in a managed way

Once again it will be a summer where we probably lose ground in terms of preparation compared to other clubs who get their act together and have a plan

[MOZZER2]

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I think today confirmed the frustration and asked why these youngsters haven’t had more playing time, why did it take 12 injuries?

I don’t mind if he stays, but if he does I don’t expect the football to change from what we have seen most the season.

well Bulut has handed 8 different young players from the academy make there senior debuts this season

that's not a bad ratio

you could argue they should have got more game time . Under Warnock i guess we would have been lucky to see 2 in a season !

[Hilts]

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To be fair the vast majority dont sing anyway.

So probably the vast majority of singers want him to stay.

Or (and maybe likely) its just a song they enjoyed singing.

I think most people really dont care but dont believe this board are capable of appointing someone better and more likely to make things worse. Im in that camp.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I think most people really dont care but dont believe this board are capable of appointing someone better and more likely to make things worse.

That's the impression I get.

There is no doubt Bulut has a significant amount of support within the fanbase and there is also a significant percentage of supporters who believe he should go. However, I'm fairly certain the majority are either undecided or don't really care, and plenty are concerned about who comes next if he does go.

One thing's for sure, though - the claim that the majority of the fans in the CCS were signing in support of Bulut yesterday is as ludicrous as suggesting the majority of City fans sing about paedophiles in Swansea every time that dreadful chant goes up.

[The Lone Gunman]

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well Bulut has handed 8 different young players from the academy make there senior debuts this season

that's not a bad ratio

Yesterday was the first time any of them had made a league start. You mentioned Warnock. He gave Mark Harris his league debut towards the end of his first season here.

Let me ask you a question: do you honestly believe Ashford would have started and either Conte or Giles would have got on the pitch yesterday if the likes of Grant, Bowler, Ng and Collins had been fit to play?

[Tuerto]

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**** me, I actually agree with you.

Flippant reply by me-Not meant for Rock-Flock-Of-Five.

[Father Dougal]

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Yesterday was the first time any of them had made a league start. You mentioned Warnock. He gave Mark Harris his league debut towards the end of his first season here.

Let me ask you a question: do you honestly believe Ashford would have started and either Conte or Giles would have got on the pitch yesterday if the likes of Grant, Bowler, Ng and Collins had been fit to play?

Obviously not.

However the bigger question is how those players now "benefit:under buluts coaching and instructions etc....

Will they kick on or will we be having discussions in a few months if he stays wondering either where the young players have gone or why they have started playing so conservatively and wondering what happened to that enthusiasm we saw yesterday.

[AdrianAlston]

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It's an impossible question to answer unless we know who the replacement would be.

Yesterday was great, but it still asks more questions than it provides answers. It questions why Ashford hasn't been selected earlier (how many games did he sit on the bench, in many of which we were crying out for an attacking substitution?) and the initial formation was farcical.

I'd really love us to have some continuity with our manager and Bulut comes across as committed, hard working and passionate.

But I'd also want to know that we will see a more enlightened selection policy and positive tactics rather than the dirge we have witnessed for most of this season.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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At Millwall last week the majority of the 1,410 away supporters were singing “we want you to stay “ and it was pretty conclusive in the ground yesterday that the fans were on his side.

If he went I’d imagine Siopis and Goutas would follow him , so I’d prefer some stability. Yes there has been some bad runs , (bad runs just like Leeds , Leicester ,Southampton and the majority of all the other teams in the league) but we are on course for a top ten finish which is more than acceptable all things considered.

Thankfully this narrow window of opinion on this board is hardly a benchmark of the majority of supporters who actually attend the games.

Why isn't it an accurate consensus by those using this messageboard? Most of the users on this forum attend games, why do their opinions become less valid if they happen to log in to this messageboard?

[Father Dougal]

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It's an impossible question to answer unless we know who the replacement would be.

Yesterday was great, but it still asks more questions than it provides answers. It questions why Ashford hasn't been selected earlier (how many games did he sit on the bench, in many of which we were crying out for an attacking substitution?) and the initial formation was farcical.

I'd really love us to have some continuity with our manager and Bulut comes across as committed, hard working and passionate.

But I'd also want to know that we will see a more enlightened selection policy and positive tactics rather than the dirge we have witnessed for most of this season.

Agree with every word.

My preference is he goes as I don't think our squad is that bad, (mid table is correct) the club do spend money and pay good wages (maybe too good) and even hudson averaged a point a game. A half decent manager will get mid table at least.

However yes the concern is there is every chance they will appoint Darren purse or promote tom ramusut you just don't know.

[Nobody's Rep]

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Agree with every word.

My preference is he goes as I don't think our squad is that bad, (mid table is correct) the club do spend money and pay good wages (maybe too good) and even hudson averaged a point a game. A half decent manager will get mid table at least.

However yes the concern is there is every chance they will appoint Darren purse or promote tom ramusut you just don't know.

That last paragraph seems to be the one concern that is common across most fans