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  • #16
    Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

    Originally posted by Madassa View Post
    It would be interesting to see the reaction if the clubs voted VAR out and The PL ignored them. I assume we'll learn how eah club votes?
    We will eventually. For instance, we know that Cardiff City voted for the introduction of VAR.

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    • #17
      Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

      Originally posted by RichardM View Post
      ● Impact on goal celebrations and the spontaneous passion that makes football special.
      for me, this is the biggest reason to get rid, you go one up and get mildly excited till you the VAR check is complete, then the moment has gone

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by blue matt View Post
        for me, this is the biggest reason to get rid, you go one up and get mildly excited till you the VAR check is complete, then the moment has gone
        The biggest reason to get rid of it for me is that it shows us that no matter what any of the authorities do, human error will always exist in football, from anyone and everyone who enters the field of play, and thank the lord for that. i feel sorry for officials, some of the decisions they're supposed to come on the right side of are almost impossible to judge. There's way too much nuance involved. So, pundits, journalists, fans, players and all of the rest in between, have your moan when a decision goes against you, but be mindful that it's just one person out there making decisions (if Var is scrapped) and respect it. Mistakes are a part of the game as much as goals, corners and throw ins are. If you're on the end of a poor shout, suck it up, that's life.

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        • #19
          Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

          Nothing wrong with the concept of technology correcting “clear and obvious” errors as was originally intended, but within weeks, or even days, the authorities were moving away from that concept until we reached the current situation where they look at every goal scored and appear to think how can we disallow that?

          If you look at incidents where the question is did the ball cross the line, the technology is there where you get a correct decision so quickly that the game does not need to be stopped and so, if the authorities insist that the rigorous off side check needs to stay, they should be stopped temporarily until there is technology available that comes to a correct decision far, far quicker than it does now.

          VAR has, indirectly, made the hand ball law impossible to understand and I would go back to the old more liberal system of what constitutes handball, unless there is an error made that is so definitely clear and obvious and will take seconds to correct through technology.

          VAR has done nothing to change the ridiculous grappling at free kicks and corners which, if anything, is getting worse. How can a case for the waits which go on while some people hundreds of miles away watch endless replays of a goal be made, when VAR is ignoring the clear and obvious fouling going on at dead ball situations?

          It,ll never happen, but I would suggest that unless or until VAR can prove a clear and obvious error within, say, fifteen seconds, it should be put in mothballs until the time arrives when it can do that.

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          • #20
            Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

            Originally posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
            Never wanted it, hope it goes.
            This.

            Unless the technology is instant like the goal line tech I don't think it works at all with the game.

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            • #21
              Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

              Originally posted by Trigger View Post
              This.

              Unless the technology is instant like the goal line tech I don't think it works at all with the game.
              Officials are human - they will make mistakes. VAR takes most of that away - apart from the fact sometimes the footage is viewed by humans to judge.

              Keep it - just need to update the system. Does anyone really want a multi million pound decision being left to one official to put his or her flag up or not - I dont.

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              • #22
                Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                If it is to be retained there needs to be a short time limit and drawing of lines needs to be dropped.

                If it isn't clear and obvious quickly, to the naked eye, a decision is wrong go with the onfield decision

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                • #23
                  Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                  Originally posted by PontBlue View Post
                  If it is to be retained there needs to be a short time limit and drawing of lines needs to be dropped.

                  If it isn't clear and obvious quickly, to the naked eye, a decision is wrong go with the onfield decision
                  Well said!

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                  • #24
                    Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                    Originally posted by pipster View Post
                    Officials are human - they will make mistakes. VAR takes most of that away - apart from the fact sometimes the footage is viewed by humans to judge.

                    Keep it - just need to update the system. Does anyone really want a multi million pound decision being left to one official to put his or her flag up or not - I dont.
                    Talking of flags, I’m not keen on the delaying of the linesman flagging, waiting for the passage of play to end. Injuries have occurred after obvious offences when the game should have been stopped. The ref always has the option to play the advantage if needed but it’s annoying when the ball ends up in the net and, when watching on telly, the commentator comes out with ‘And now the flag goes up’.

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                    • #25
                      Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                      Wouldn't we have stayed in the prem under Warnock if VAR was in use?

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                      • #26
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                        I don't know why they don't use a system like the NFL where the coaches have challenges, two per half and like someone said earlier, if the decision is too close to call and there is not a clear and obvious reason to overturn it, you stay with the on field decision.

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                        • #27
                          Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                          Originally posted by bobh View Post
                          Wouldn't we have stayed in the prem under Warnock if VAR was in use?
                          If it's the Chelsea game in question, nobody knows what would have happened had the goal been disallowed. I sometimes see tables suggesting how many points have been won and lost by teams because of VAR and they're daft. All VAR does is change a moment in the game. Overturning a goal at some point doesn't mean the game would have carried on exactly as it would have otherwise.

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                          • #28
                            Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                            Originally posted by PontBlue View Post
                            If it is to be retained there needs to be a short time limit and drawing of lines needs to be dropped.

                            If it isn't clear and obvious quickly, to the naked eye, a decision is wrong go with the onfield decision
                            This would improve it immensely.

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                            • #29
                              Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                              Originally posted by bobh View Post
                              Wouldn't we have stayed in the prem under Warnock if VAR was in use?
                              Probably not. There would have been decisions that went against us too.

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                              • #30
                                Re: VAR To Get The Boot?

                                Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                                Probably not. There would have been decisions that went against us too.
                                Correct.
                                Brighton home game earlier in season - the build up to the winner goal would have ruled it out had had VAR reviewed it.

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