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Thread: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

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    20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    What is the betting they now start to take some action?

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    What is the betting they now start to take some action?
    I doubt it will have any effect in a general election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    What is the betting they now start to take some action?
    Someone must have chucked Gething an envelope - 200k the going rate for a Labour First minister policy change these days + inflation obvs

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I doubt it will have any effect in a general election.
    I think they'll worry it will and suddenly make some action.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Someone must have chucked Gething an envelope - 200k the going rate for a Labour First minister policy change these days + inflation obvs

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Spare a though for Rjk, he's going to be devastated by this latest development.

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    Some roads will revert back but I doubt if it will be that many. Maybe A Roads that don't pass schools, hospitals and old people's home.

    Council's should have a facility on their website by now where residents can state which roads should revert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Someone must have chucked Gething an envelope - 200k the going rate for a Labour First minister policy change these days + inflation obvs
    No one is going to consign themselves to 5 more years of this shit show in order to drive 10 mph faster.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by PontBlue View Post
    Some roads will revert back but I doubt if it will be that many. Maybe A Roads that don't pass schools, hospitals and old people's home.

    Council's should have a facility on their website by now where residents can state which roads should revert.
    Yes all of them!

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I doubt it will have any effect in a general election.
    They'll get a lot of sh!t about it on the doorsteps, if they can be bothered to get out of bed and walk to any doorsteps.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    What is the betting they now start to take some action?
    Considering half of England is 20mph now, it won’t matter one jot

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Considering half of England is 20mph now, it won’t matter one jot
    Half of England

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    What is the betting they now start to take some action?
    Thought local authorities has discretion as to where it applied or not ??

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep View Post
    Thought local authorities has discretion as to where it applied or not ??
    And I think the crux of it will be that local people will be up in arms about 20mph limits, but when it comes to roads in their village, most would probably object to limits going back to 30mph.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Considering half of England is 20mph now, it won’t matter one jot
    Not that I have noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Spare a though for Rjk, he's going to be devastated by this latest development.
    as long as they leave the roads through my village alone it wouldn't affect me much either way.
    My commute is almost entirely on roads faster than 20mph already.

    it would make sense to see what effect the changes have had on road deaths before changing them back though

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    as long as they leave the roads through my village alone it wouldn't affect me much either way.
    My commute is almost entirely on roads faster than 20mph already.

    it would make sense to see what effect the changes have had on road deaths before changing them back though
    More people have probably died through heart attacks at the frustration than the one cat saved by the lower speed.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    More people have probably died through heart attacks at the frustration than the one cat saved by the lower speed.
    how about we just look at the numbers and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    how about we just look at the numbers and see
    Apparently it has made no difference to air pollution and quality

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Apparently it has made no difference to air pollution and quality
    it wasn't expected to

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    it wasn't expected to
    It was.

    https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/...ugust-2018.pdf

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I saw another report that suggested that the effects on air pollution and air quality were likely to be negligible, I'll have a look to see if I can dig it out.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I saw another report that suggested that the effects on air pollution and air quality were likely to be negligible, I'll have a look to see if I can dig it out.
    It will be worse more traffic congestion.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    It will be worse more traffic congestion.
    traffic congestion is caused by more cars on the road, not driving a bit slower.

    the report I read concluded there were some pros and cons with regards to air pollution but overall the difference was negligible in either direction.

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    Re: 20mph back to 30mph get your skates on !

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    traffic congestion is caused by more cars on the road, not driving a bit slower.
    But if cars are driving more slowly, there will be more cars on the road as they won't complete their journey as quickly.

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